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I know I could fix this by just restarting the system, but I'm interested how I could recover from this without that.","references_html":"<ol data-ref-list>\n \n <li>\n <a href=\"https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/36192\" >Transport endpoint is not connected · Issue #36192 · systemd ... - GitHub</a>\n <span class=\"__domain-name\">github.com</span>\n <div class=\"trigger\" tabindex=\"0\">\n <span class=\"contribution\" style=\"background: linear-gradient(to right, var(--primary-70) 46%, transparent 46%)\">46%</span>\n <div class=\"tooltip top end tooltip_base tw-auto\">\n This percentage indicates how much a source has contributed to the answer.\n </div>\n </div>\n </li>\n \n <li>\n <a href=\"https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/741349/redhat-how-to-update-systemd-and-dbus-without-reboot\" >rhel - RedHat: How to update systemd and dbus without reboot?</a>\n <span class=\"__domain-name\">unix.stackexchange.com</span>\n <div class=\"trigger\" tabindex=\"0\">\n <span class=\"contribution\" style=\"background: linear-gradient(to right, var(--primary-70) 18%, transparent 18%)\">18%</span>\n <div class=\"tooltip top end tooltip_base tw-auto\">\n This percentage indicates how much a source has contributed to the answer.\n </div>\n </div>\n </li>\n \n <li>\n <a href=\"https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/18u78w6/protip_dont_restart_your_users_dbus_service/\" >Protip: don't restart your user's dbus service. 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Things break in a epic...](https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/18u78w6/protip_dont_restart_your_users_dbus_service/) (13%)\n[^4]: [yocto - How can I do \"export $(dbus-launch) in booting - Stack Overflow](https://stackoverflow.com/questions/47695548/how-can-i-do-export-dbus-launch-in-booting) (10%)\n[^5]: [How to export DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS - Stack Overflow](https://stackoverflow.com/questions/41242460/how-to-export-dbus-session-bus-address) (9%)\n[^6]: [command line - How can I logout from the GUI using CLI? - Ask Ubuntu](https://askubuntu.com/questions/180628/how-can-i-logout-from-the-gui-using-cli) (2%)\n[^7]: [How to properly end a KDE session from shell without root privileges](https://superuser.com/questions/395820/how-to-properly-end-a-kde-session-from-shell-without-root-privileges) (1%)\n[^8]: [unable to kill user-session with loginctl - Ask Ubuntu](https://askubuntu.com/questions/1369771/unable-to-kill-user-session-with-loginctl) (1%)\n","reply":"<details><summary>Scratchpad.md</summary>\n<hr>\n<p>query_type: depth-first</p>\n<hr>\n<h2>Plan</h2>\n<p>User has KDE system where:</p>\n<ul>\n<li>All app launches timeout</li>\n<li>Plasma shell restart fails with \"Transport endpoint is not connected\"</li>\n<li>Even systemctl commands are timing out</li>\n<li>Suspects dbus issue</li>\n<li>Wants recovery without full system restart</li>\n</ul>\n<p>This looks like a system-level service failure, likely dbus or session management. Need to research:</p>\n<ol>\n<li>Common causes of \"Transport endpoint is not connected\" in KDE/systemd</li>\n<li>Dbus troubleshooting for KDE sessions</li>\n<li>Recovery methods without full reboot</li>\n<li>CachyOS-specific considerations if any</li>\n</ol>\n<h2>Initial observations</h2>\n<p>The error suggests communication breakdown between systemctl and the user session, which points to either:</p>\n<ul>\n<li>Dbus session bus failure</li>\n<li>Systemd user session corruption</li>\n<li>Session manager issues</li>\n</ul>\n<h2>Key findings from search</h2>\n<ul>\n<li>\"Transport endpoint is not connected\" typically means systemctl cannot talk to systemd due to broken dbus connection</li>\n<li>Often caused by dbus-broker process dying</li>\n<li>Common in KDE/Plasma environments</li>\n<li>Several recovery methods mentioned:\n<ul>\n<li>systemctl --user daemon-reexec (restart user systemd instance)</li>\n<li>Restart dbus session</li>\n<li>Kill and restart user session services</li>\n</ul>\n</li>\n</ul>\n<p>Need to search for specific recovery commands and dbus restart procedures.</p>\n<h2>Additional findings</h2>\n<ul>\n<li>systemctl daemon-reexec can restart systemd but may cause issues</li>\n<li>Reddit warns against restarting user dbus service - \"things break in epic ways\"</li>\n<li>loginctl enable-linger can help with user session management</li>\n<li>Need specific commands for KDE session recovery</li>\n</ul>\n<p>Still need to find the exact recovery sequence and commands.</p>\n<h2>More findings</h2>\n<ul>\n<li>loginctl commands for session management: list-sessions, terminate-session, unlock-sessions</li>\n<li>export $(dbus-launch) to set up dbus session variables</li>\n<li>eval <code>dbus-launch --auto-syntax</code> alternative</li>\n<li>loginctl enable-linger for persistent user sessions</li>\n</ul>\n<p>Need one more search for the complete recovery procedure and CachyOS specifics.</p>\n<h2>CachyOS specific findings</h2>\n<ul>\n<li>CachyOS has had systemd and display manager issues</li>\n<li>Recent migration from SDDM to plasma login manager</li>\n<li>Some users report session restore issues</li>\n<li>loginctl kill-session and terminate-session commands available</li>\n</ul>\n<h2>Response outline</h2>\n<p>Based on research, I can now provide a comprehensive answer with multiple recovery approaches:</p>\n<ol>\n<li>Immediate diagnosis steps</li>\n<li>Dbus session recovery</li>\n<li>User systemd session restart</li>\n<li>Session management with loginctl</li>\n<li>Last resort options before reboot</li>\n</ol>\n<p>The key insight is that \"Transport endpoint is not connected\" indicates dbus communication failure, and there are several approaches to recover without full reboot.</p>\n</details><details><summary>Created plan</summary>\n<div class=\"codehilite\"><span class=\"filename\">diff</span><pre><span></span><code>@@ -0,0 +1,23 @@\n+---\n+query_type: depth-first\n+---\n+\n+## Plan\n+User has KDE system where:\n+- All app launches timeout\n+- Plasma shell restart fails with \"Transport endpoint is not connected\"\n+- Even systemctl commands are timing out\n+- Suspects dbus issue\n+- Wants recovery without full system restart\n+\n+This looks like a system-level service failure, likely dbus or session management. Need to research:\n+1. Common causes of \"Transport endpoint is not connected\" in KDE/systemd\n+2. Dbus troubleshooting for KDE sessions\n+3. Recovery methods without full reboot\n+4. CachyOS-specific considerations if any\n+\n+## Initial observations\n+The error suggests communication breakdown between systemctl and the user session, which points to either:\n+- Dbus session bus failure\n+- Systemd user session corruption\n+- Session manager issues\n</code></pre></div>\n</details>\n<details><summary>Searched with Kagi<p></p>\n<ul>\n<li>KDE plasma Transport endpoint is not connected systemctl</li>\n<li>dbus session bus failure KDE recovery</li>\n<li>systemd user session restart without reboot</li></ul></summary><br>\nSources (15):<br>\n**<a href=\"https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=278896\" target=\"_blank\">https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=278896</a>c.php?id=278896](https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=278896)<br>\nAug 15, 2022 The entire \"Transport endpoint is not connected\" might be just spam, likely from dbus-broker. It's there in the earlier boots as well (since aug 8th, what kinda aligns w/ the dbus-broker installation), but after Aug 13 08:38:17 you're not even attempting the graphical.target except in the archiso boot.\n\n<p><strong>Shutdown delay due to transport end point not connected / Newbie...</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=273221\" target=\"_blank\">https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=273221</a><br>\nJan 16, 2022 The \"Failed to stop user service 'user@1000.service', ignoring: Transport endpoint is not connected\" seems to be the reason for more than a minute then passing before the sddm service times out and gets killed. Does anyone know if there is a workaround for this to give the expected immediate shutdown behaviour that used to be the norm?</p>\n<p>**<a href=\"https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=295511\" target=\"_blank\">https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=295511</a>wtopic.php?id=295511](https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=295511)<br>\n I've been using KDE and SDDM for a while but today after rebooting it doesn't start at boot, startplasma-x11 doesn't work while startplasma-wayland works just fine, the desktop environment works as expected after starting manually but it doesn't start up on its own, here's my .xinitrc:</p>\n<p><strong>Transport endpoint is not connected · Issue #36192 · systemd ... - GitHub</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/36192\" target=\"_blank\">https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/36192</a><br>\nJan 27, 2025 transport endpoint not connected This usually means that systemctl etc. cannot talk to systemd because the dbus connection is broken, e.g. because the dbus-broker process has died</p>\n<p><strong>Error while trying to stop Plasma · Issue #50...</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://github.com/QaidVoid/Complete-Single-GPU-Passthrough/issues/50\" target=\"_blank\">https://github.com/QaidVoid/Complete-Single-GPU-Passthrough/issues/50</a><br>\nNov 05, 2024 I am on Manjaro, Kernel 6.9, running KDE Plasma 6 on Wayland. systemctl stop display-manager (OK). systemctl --user -M my_user_name stop plasma : Failed to connect to bus: Host is down Failed to stop plasma.service: Transport endpoint is not connected See user logs and 'systemctl --user status plasma.service' for details. And then, it fails when I am trying to remove modules</p>\n<p>**<a href=\"https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=141967\" target=\"_blank\">https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=141967</a>p?id=141967](https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=141967)<br>\nMay 22, 2012 I just successfully logged in with KDE Plasma Desktop (failsafe session), and then after reboot I was able to log in with the Default \"KDE ...</p>\n<p><strong>KDE Plasma spectacle fails to start after some uptime, dbus is broken ...</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=307043\" target=\"_blank\">https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=307043</a><br>\n Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.</p>\n<p>**<a href=\"https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=193589\" target=\"_blank\">https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=193589</a>?id=193589](https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=193589)<br>\nAug 23, 2017 export DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=\"$dbus_session_address\" fi. However, this no longer works since I \"upgraded\" to Plasma 5. I tried simply removing the KDE stuff and relying on the DBUS information, but this failed.2. I have no idea how this environmental variable is getting set or how to figure out what it is from a cron job. How can I recover the correct value from a cron job?</p>\n<p><strong>Plasma discover do not lunch - Help - KDE Discuss</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://discuss.kde.org/t/plasma-discover-do-not-lunch/37233\" target=\"_blank\">https://discuss.kde.org/t/plasma-discover-do-not-lunch/37233</a><br>\n Hey guys, Few days ago I downloaded Waydroid for a project, to do so I swapped my session from X11 to wayland. Now that my project is finished I switched back to X11 but plasma-discover won’t lunch anymore. I tried so uninstall and reinstall kde-plasma-desktop but the thing still wont lunch. when i try to lunch it from the terminal using sudo I get this: \" ~ sudo plasma-discover ...</p>\n<p><strong>KDE 6, Discover wont launch. Global Shortcuts fail. Dbus related?</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://discuss.kde.org/t/kde-6-discover-wont-launch-global-shortcuts-fail-dbus-related/11336\" target=\"_blank\">https://discuss.kde.org/t/kde-6-discover-wont-launch-global-shortcuts-fail-dbus-related/11336</a><br>\nMar 03, 2024 Failed to connect to bus: $DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS and $XDG_RUNTIME_DIR not defined (consider using --machine=<user>@.host --user to connect to bus of other user). Then, I messed about to fix it, now I can restart dbus, but first time I did, I got a crash. Subsequent restarts just crash the desktop with no error, and must reboot to bring it back.However, reinstalling DBUS or plasma-discover doesn’t help, and clearing the cache doesn’t help either. In general, after the update, my KDE Plasma desktop environment completely broke.</p>\n<p><strong>Can I restart systemd without rebooting?</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/419374/can-i-restart-systemd-without-rebooting\" target=\"_blank\">https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/419374/can-i-restart-systemd-without-rebooting</a><br>\nJan 24, 2018 I could restart every service using systemctl, but needs-restarting from yum utils tells me that I should also restart systemd itself: # needs-restarting 1 : /usr/lib/systemd/systemd --system --deserialize 21. Can I restart systemd without rebooting the server, and how? I found a few mentions of systemctl daemon-reload , but this doesn't make it disappear from the needs-restarting list.</p>\n<p><strong>Restarting systemd service only as a specific user?</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/496982/restarting-systemd-service-only-as-a-specific-user\" target=\"_blank\">https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/496982/restarting-systemd-service-only-as-a-specific-user</a><br>\n In both cases you can run systemctl [start|stop|restart] publicapi.service as user techops without giving a password. In the latter case ( polkit <= 0.105 ) the user techops could control any systemd unit.</p>\n<p><strong>rhel - RedHat: How to update systemd and dbus without reboot?</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/741349/redhat-how-to-update-systemd-and-dbus-without-reboot\" target=\"_blank\">https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/741349/redhat-how-to-update-systemd-and-dbus-without-reboot</a><br>\nMar 30, 2023 How do I restart systemd and dbus without a reboot? I already tried. systemctl daemon-reexec. To restart the PID-1 process.Keep in mind that PID 1 is not the only instance of systemd, however – each user with an interactive logon session has their own per-user instance as well, which they can restart using systemctl --user daemon-reexec . (Those instances are managed as user@*.service ; related term: \"linger\".)</p>\n<p><strong>docker - Restart systemd with different options without rebooting?</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/321811/restart-systemd-with-different-options-without-rebooting\" target=\"_blank\">https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/321811/restart-systemd-with-different-options-without-rebooting</a><br>\nApr 25, 2017 Starting Docker without starting containers. 5. Systemd starts emacs daemon without XAUTHORITY environment variable after upgrading to Fedora 37. Hot Network Questions. What is this FPS game that is showcasing how bad the recoil is?These cookies are necessary for the website to function and cannot be switched off in our systems. They are usually only set in response to actions made by you which amount to a request for services, such as setting your privacy preferences, logging in or filling in forms.</p>\n<p><strong>systemd - restart without stop - Unix & Linux Stack Exchange</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/317470/systemd-restart-without-stop\" target=\"_blank\">https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/317470/systemd-restart-without-stop</a><br>\n systemd does not have a notion of a restart that is not just stop-if-running+start. You might be able to use ExecReload= and then use systemctl reload instead of restart, but the question is why you need this? Why do you restart the master without restarting the clients? For that matter, what does the master actually do? Your start script leads me to believe that you are trying to do process ...</p>\n</details>\n<details><summary>Updated plan</summary>\n<div class=\"codehilite\"><span class=\"filename\">diff</span><pre><span></span><code>@@ -21,3 +21,14 @@\n - Dbus session bus failure\n - Systemd user session corruption\n - Session manager issues\n+\n+## Key findings from search\n+- \"Transport endpoint is not connected\" typically means systemctl cannot talk to systemd due to broken dbus connection\n+- Often caused by dbus-broker process dying\n+- Common in KDE/Plasma environments\n+- Several recovery methods mentioned:\n+ - systemctl --user daemon-reexec (restart user systemd instance)\n+ - Restart dbus session\n+ - Kill and restart user session services\n+\n+Need to search for specific recovery commands and dbus restart procedures.\n</code></pre></div>\n</details>\n<details><summary>Searched with Kagi<p></p>\n<ul>\n<li>systemctl --user daemon-reexec recovery</li>\n<li>restart dbus session bus KDE</li>\n<li>kill user systemd session restart</li></ul></summary><br>\nSources (15):<br>\n<strong>Using Systemd for Automated System Recovery | Dell St. Kitts and ...</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://www.dell.com/support/kbdoc/en-kn/000146106/using-systemd-for-automated-system-recovery\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.dell.com/support/kbdoc/en-kn/000146106/using-systemd-for-automated-system-recovery</a><br>\nSummary: With the inclusion of support for watchdog hardware, systemd can now perform the function of a watchdog daemon Linux on Dell PowerEdge systems.\n\n<p><strong>Manage Systemd Services with systemctl on Linux | DigitalOcean</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-use-systemctl-to-manage-systemd-services-and-units\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-use-systemctl-to-manage-systemd-services-and-units</a><br>\nFeb 02, 2015 Learn how to use systemctl to manage systemd services and units in Linux. Control startup, shutdown, and more. Follow this step-by-step guide.While systemctl operates mainly with the core systemd process, there are other components to the systemd ecosystem that are controlled by other utilities. Other capabilities, like log management and user sessions are handled by separate daemons and management utilities (journald/journalctl and logind/loginctl respectively).</p>\n<p><strong>Network connectivity loss after systemctl daemon-reexec</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/2099676\" target=\"_blank\">https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/2099676</a><br>\nFeb 21, 2025 The apt-daily-upgrade service updated a package which triggered a systemctl daemon-reexec, cuting network connectivity in the process.</p>\n<p><strong>Bug #2013543 “systemctl daemon-reexec forgets running services a ...</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/2013543\" target=\"_blank\">https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/2013543</a><br>\n The `/var/lib/ dpkg/info/ systemd. postinst` executes a `systemctl daemon-reexec` and that ended in a disaster. It seems that `systemd` is forgetting all it started children and tries to start nearly every configured service again.</p>\n<p><strong>reboot or \"systemctl daemon-reload\" for changes to /etc/systemd/system ...</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://serverfault.com/questions/805745/reboot-or-systemctl-daemon-reload-for-changes-to-etc-systemd-system-conf\" target=\"_blank\">https://serverfault.com/questions/805745/reboot-or-systemctl-daemon-reload-for-changes-to-etc-systemd-system-conf</a><br>\nApr 18, 2017 However, # systemctl daemon-reexec will re-execute systemd and cause it to digest its new configuration in the process. From the systemctl man pageon behalf of user configuration will stay accessible. When the man page says daemon-reexec is useful for package upgrades, it in large part means that this command executes whatever new binaries there are and re-processes its configs.</p>\n<p><strong>Restart dbus? : r/systemd - Reddit</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://www.reddit.com/r/systemd/comments/842o4e/restart_dbus/\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.reddit.com/r/systemd/comments/842o4e/restart_dbus/</a><br>\nMar 14, 2018 Does anyone have experience in restarting the dbus service? systemctl restart dbus Actually works, but: Why is it not documented?</p>\n<p><strong>Prevent kf.dbusaddons: DBus session bus not found. To ... - Reddit</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/15znaqi/prevent_kfdbusaddons_dbus_session_bus_not_found/\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/15znaqi/prevent_kfdbusaddons_dbus_session_bus_not_found/</a><br>\n To launch GUI applications in kde (plasma) in Ubuntu Jammy I need to first manually do export $(dbus-launch) and then launch the app from this console Otherwise it won't start (saying kf.dbusaddons: DBus session bus not found. To circumvent this problem try the following command (with bash): export $(dbus-launch) ) Circumventing is not the intention, the intention is to prevent once and for ...</p>\n<p><strong>Protip: don't restart your user's dbus service. Things break in a epic...</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/18u78w6/protip_dont_restart_your_users_dbus_service/\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/18u78w6/protip_dont_restart_your_users_dbus_service/</a><br>\nDec 30, 2023</p>\n<p><strong>Integration of dbus and KDE: starting and stopping the session part of ...</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://www.howtoforge.com/dbus_kde_integration\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.howtoforge.com/dbus_kde_integration</a><br>\nJan 10, 2015 Some variables (DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS and DBUS_SESSION_BUS_PID) have to be available in the environment to every application which works with dbus. IMHO the setting of these variables should go in the bash-startupscripts. Then whatever script or application you're running, these variables are set to the right value.</p>\n<p>**<a href=\"https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=141967\" target=\"_blank\">https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=141967</a>p?id=141967](https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=141967)<br>\nMay 22, 2012 I start kdm on startup using rc.conf daemon array and dbus is BEFORE kdm in this array. I changed nothing in rc.conf or anything for this bug to ...</p>\n<p><strong>How to configure systemd to kill and restart a daemon on reload?</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://serverfault.com/questions/767360/how-to-configure-systemd-to-kill-and-restart-a-daemon-on-reload\" target=\"_blank\">https://serverfault.com/questions/767360/how-to-configure-systemd-to-kill-and-restart-a-daemon-on-reload</a><br>\nMar 31, 2016 As a result, start and restart work, but reload gives this error: # systemctl reload MYSERVICE Failed to reload MYSERVICE.service: Job type reload is not applicable for unit MYSERVICE.service. Attempt 2: Tell it how to kill the process. This kills the process but systemd doesn't restart it for me.(MiniRant: for starting a process systemd seems to be the all-knowing, all-mounting, all-namespace-customizing i-do-everything-at-my-layer system. Therefore I can't tell you why it doesn't extend this philosophy to reloading. Maybe one of the authors can chime in here.)</p>\n<p><strong>Systemd stops user manager and kills all user processes</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://serverfault.com/questions/1139283/systemd-stops-user-manager-and-kills-all-user-processes\" target=\"_blank\">https://serverfault.com/questions/1139283/systemd-stops-user-manager-and-kills-all-user-processes</a><br>\n From your logs, I would say you have the cause and effect reversed: the user sessions stop first; then, after a 10-second timer, systemd-logind stops the user manager as \"unneeded\" (which is standard behavior unless \"linger\" mode has been enabled for that user). Start by doing loginctl enable-linger <user> to disable the automatic GC of the user service manager; that's something you should ...</p>\n<p><strong>Avoid systemd user scope kill on shutdown - Server Fault</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://serverfault.com/questions/1142620/avoid-systemd-user-scope-kill-on-shutdown\" target=\"_blank\">https://serverfault.com/questions/1142620/avoid-systemd-user-scope-kill-on-shutdown</a><br>\nAug 29, 2023 I use unprivileged LXC containers started with lxc-unpriv-start command that create a systemd user scope. I create a service that start my containers on server start and launch a clean shutdown on service stop. Every container can take 2 or 3 minutes to shutdown.Enabling linger for the user session will allow your containers to continue running even after you log out or during system shutdown. This should prevent systemd-logind from forcefully terminating the user session and the associated containers, giving them the opportunity to shut down gracefully.</p>\n<p><strong>In a systemd service, how can I kill all processes on restart, other...</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://serverfault.com/questions/870461/in-a-systemd-service-how-can-i-kill-all-processes-on-restart-other-than-mainp\" target=\"_blank\">https://serverfault.com/questions/870461/in-a-systemd-service-how-can-i-kill-all-processes-on-restart-other-than-mainp</a><br>\nAug 25, 2017 I wrote a simple .service for systemd. My process starts fine, but it spans more sub-processes with different PIDs. Hence, I can not properly stop my service with the usual line: ExecReload=/bin/kill -HUP $MAINPID. because I kill the main original process (a shell script), but not its children. How can I kill 'em all on restart? Is there a valid macro like $ALLPIDS?</p>\n<p><strong>systemd/User - ArchWiki</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Systemd/User\" target=\"_blank\">https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Systemd/User</a><br>\nAug 22, 2017 Start X at login. systemd offers the ability to manage services under the user's control with a per-user systemd instance, enabling them to start, stop, enable, and disable their own user units. This is convenient for daemons and other services that are commonly run for a single user, such as mpd, or to perform automated tasks like fetching mail.</p>\n</details>\n<details><summary>Updated plan</summary>\n<div class=\"codehilite\"><span class=\"filename\">diff</span><pre><span></span><code>@@ -32,3 +32,11 @@\n - Kill and restart user session services\n\n Need to search for specific recovery commands and dbus restart procedures.\n+\n+## Additional findings\n+- systemctl daemon-reexec can restart systemd but may cause issues\n+- Reddit warns against restarting user dbus service - \"things break in epic ways\"\n+- loginctl enable-linger can help with user session management\n+- Need specific commands for KDE session recovery\n+\n+Still need to find the exact recovery sequence and commands.\n</code></pre></div>\n</details>\n<details><summary>Searched with Kagi<p></p>\n<ul>\n<li>KDE session recovery commands loginctl</li>\n<li>dbus-launch export session recovery</li>\n<li>systemd --user restart session without reboot</li></ul></summary><br>\nSources (15):<br>\n<strong>How to properly end a KDE session from shell without root privileges</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://superuser.com/questions/395820/how-to-properly-end-a-kde-session-from-shell-without-root-privileges\" target=\"_blank\">https://superuser.com/questions/395820/how-to-properly-end-a-kde-session-from-shell-without-root-privileges</a><br>\nMar 01, 2012 The regular logoff button just ends the NX session without ending the KDE session. I cant call kdm restart as I have no root privileges. Other wild guesses like logout and exit do not work either, the first one complaining about not being in a login shell and the second one just closing the console.Show activity on this post. The accepted answer is a solution specific for KDE5, a more generic approach would be. loginctl list-sessions loginctl terminate-session <id>.\n\n<p><strong>linux - How to unlock screen from script in KDE Plasma 5? - Super User</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://superuser.com/questions/1046028/how-to-unlock-screen-from-script-in-kde-plasma-5\" target=\"_blank\">https://superuser.com/questions/1046028/how-to-unlock-screen-from-script-in-kde-plasma-5</a><br>\nFeb 27, 2016 I use KDE and have extra widgets showing on the saver screen (a clock and a CPUs activity monitor - for those long build jobs) and they and the \"unlock/switch user\" widget also remain. Normality is restored by entering the password in the dialog from the \"unlock\". I, too, need a command to unlock properly.In order to unlock switch to a virtual terminal (e.g. Ctrl+Alt+F2), log in and execute the command: loginctl unlock-sessions Afterwards switch back to the running session (Ctrl+Alt+F7).</p>\n<p><strong>script - Save session using shell command in KDE - Super User</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://superuser.com/questions/699857/save-session-using-shell-command-in-kde\" target=\"_blank\">https://superuser.com/questions/699857/save-session-using-shell-command-in-kde</a><br>\nJan 11, 2014 I can save my KDE session using the KDE start menu. But how could I achieve to save my session by shell command ?The KDE start menu button saves session with name \"saved by user\" and this is restored at login if and only if you have selected restore manually saved session in settings. To save this type of session from command line, command DISPLAY=:0.0 qdbus org.kde.ksmserver /KSMServer org.kde.KSMServerInterface.saveCurrentSession will do (finding correct dbus session is a bit more complex trick for this answer).</p>\n<p><strong>loginctl (1) — Linux manual page - man7.org</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://www.man7.org/linux/man-pages/man1/loginctl.1.html\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.man7.org/linux/man-pages/man1/loginctl.1.html</a><br>\n COMMANDS top The following commands are understood: Session Commandslist-sessions List current sessions. The JSON format output can be toggled using --json= or -j option. session-status [ID...] Show terse runtime status information about one or more sessions, followed by the most recent log data from the journal. Takes one or more session identifiers as parameters. If no session identifiers ...</p>\n<p><strong>Linux/UNIX Programming Training</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://man7.org/training/\" target=\"_blank\">https://man7.org/training/</a><br>\n Linux and UNIX programming training and consulting by Michael Kerrisk Michael Kerrisk provides training and consulting on Linux and UNIX system programming. He develops and delivers all man7.org courses. His courses emphasize deep conceptual understanding and employ insightful practical exercises that reinforce that understanding. The courses are rich with pictures, examples, and historical ...</p>\n<p><strong>How to export DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS - Stack Overflow</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://stackoverflow.com/questions/41242460/how-to-export-dbus-session-bus-address\" target=\"_blank\">https://stackoverflow.com/questions/41242460/how-to-export-dbus-session-bus-address</a><br>\nDec 20, 2016 export DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=$(cat /tmp/dbus-session-addr.txt). If your shell's sniffy about export-during-definition - some can be - do it in two stagesIt sounds like you are trying to get the value of DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS in order for your application to run correctly. Try running it with dbus-run-session instead of dbus-launch.</p>\n<p><strong>yocto - How can I do \"export $(dbus-launch) in booting - Stack Overflow</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://stackoverflow.com/questions/47695548/how-can-i-do-export-dbus-launch-in-booting\" target=\"_blank\">https://stackoverflow.com/questions/47695548/how-can-i-do-export-dbus-launch-in-booting</a><br>\nDec 07, 2017 eval \\<code>dbus-launch --auto-syntax\\</code>. this will export \"DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS\" and \"DBUS_SESSION_BUS_PID\" with proper values. you can also use this scriptAsking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers. Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience. To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers.</p>\n<p><strong>linux - Error in spawning a dbus-launch - what is that? - Stack Overflow</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://stackoverflow.com/questions/20285697/error-in-spawning-a-dbus-launch-what-is-that\" target=\"_blank\">https://stackoverflow.com/questions/20285697/error-in-spawning-a-dbus-launch-what-is-that</a><br>\nJun 22, 2017 ** Message: Failed to get session bus: Error spawning command line 'dbus-launch --autolaunch=55644972b3c91c1d24d83d8252721f00 --binary-syntax --close-stderr': Child process exited with code 1. In the web I find no clean or good documentation what that is.Set the dbus variable: export $(dbus-launch). In your case with a Cron job you can set environment variables like this</p>\n<p><strong>How do we start the D-bus session manually? (SOLVED)</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://forum.puppylinux.com/viewtopic.php?t=5257\" target=\"_blank\">https://forum.puppylinux.com/viewtopic.php?t=5257</a><br>\nFeb 22, 2022 Afternoon, gang. Now then; how do we start the D-bus session from a shell script? I know I've used it before in one of my hundreds of scripts, at some point over the last few years.Try this, before launching the appimage from the same terminal window: Code: Select all. export $(dbus-launch).</p>\n<p><strong>dbus-launch</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://dbus.freedesktop.org/doc/dbus-launch.1.html\" target=\"_blank\">https://dbus.freedesktop.org/doc/dbus-launch.1.html</a><br>\n DESCRIPTION The dbus-launch command is used to start a session bus instance of dbus-daemon from a shell script. It would normally be called from a user's login scripts. Unlike the daemon itself, dbus-launch exits, so backticks or the $ () construct can be used to read information from dbus-launch.</p>\n<p><strong>How to Start, Stop, Restart, and Reload Services with systemctl on ...</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://oneuptime.com/blog/post/2026-03-04-start-stop-restart-reload-services-systemctl-rhel-9/view\" target=\"_blank\">https://oneuptime.com/blog/post/2026-03-04-start-stop-restart-reload-services-systemctl-rhel-9/view</a><br>\nMar 04, 2026 A practical guide to managing services with systemctl on RHEL, covering start, stop, restart, reload, and understanding when to use each ...</p>\n<p><strong>rhel - Can I restart systemd without rebooting? - Unix & Linux Stack...</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/419374/can-i-restart-systemd-without-rebooting\" target=\"_blank\">https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/419374/can-i-restart-systemd-without-rebooting</a><br>\nJan 24, 2018 I could restart every service using systemctl, but needs-restarting from yum utils tells me that I should also restart systemd itself: # needs-restarting 1 : /usr/lib/systemd/systemd --system --deserialize 21. Can I restart systemd without rebooting the server, and how? I found a few mentions of systemctl daemon-reload , but this doesn't make it disappear from the needs-restarting list.</p>\n<p><strong>systemd - How to apply lingering immediately - Unix & Linux Stack Exchange</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/462845/how-to-apply-lingering-immediately\" target=\"_blank\">https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/462845/how-to-apply-lingering-immediately</a><br>\n As per this answer, I enabled lingering for a user on a headless system. However in loginctl list-sessions, the user is not listed yet. If I login with this user by ssh it is shown, once I disconnect again it is missing. How can I generate the lingering session without restarting the entire system? I have unsuccessfully tried to systemctl restart systemd-logind. Edit: My goal is to run a timer ...</p>\n<p><strong>When I really need to Reboot or Restart a service after a DNF update?</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://www.reddit.com/r/Fedora/comments/14phqje/when_i_really_need_to_reboot_or_restart_a_service/\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.reddit.com/r/Fedora/comments/14phqje/when_i_really_need_to_reboot_or_restart_a_service/</a><br>\nJul 03, 2023 I perform the dnf update (print screen below) from the CLI, and after I run dnf needs-restarting -r, and it says No Reboot is Necessary. Which ...</p>\n<p><strong>RFE: ability to reload networkd configuration without restarting it #6654</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/6654\" target=\"_blank\">https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/6654</a><br>\nAug 21, 2017 I have to restart the systemd-networkd,which is causing 2-3 secs to network to comeup. Is there any other method apart from restart the systemd- ...</p>\n</details>\n<details><summary>Updated plan</summary>\n<div class=\"codehilite\"><span class=\"filename\">diff</span><pre><span></span><code>@@ -40,3 +40,11 @@\n - Need specific commands for KDE session recovery\n\n Still need to find the exact recovery sequence and commands.\n+\n+## More findings\n+- loginctl commands for session management: list-sessions, terminate-session, unlock-sessions\n+- export $(dbus-launch) to set up dbus session variables\n+- eval `dbus-launch --auto-syntax` alternative\n+- loginctl enable-linger for persistent user sessions\n+\n+Need one more search for the complete recovery procedure and CachyOS specifics.\n</code></pre></div>\n</details>\n<details><summary>Searched with Kagi<p></p>\n<ul>\n<li>CachyOS KDE recovery session restart</li>\n<li>arch linux KDE plasma session recovery without reboot</li>\n<li>loginctl kill-user restart session</li></ul></summary><br>\nSources (15):<br>\n<strong>KDE Plasma Save Session restores all windows to Desktop 1 - Reddit</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://www.reddit.com/r/cachyos/comments/1q37sqy/kde_plasma_save_session_restores_all_windows_to/\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.reddit.com/r/cachyos/comments/1q37sqy/kde_plasma_save_session_restores_all_windows_to/</a><br>\nJan 03, 2026 How can I get the save session function to restore all windows to their respective desktops rather than dumping everything in desktop 1?\n\n<p><strong>Systemd and Automated restart management issues : r/cachyos - Reddit</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://www.reddit.com/r/cachyos/comments/18rxftd/systemd_and_automated_restart_management_issues/\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.reddit.com/r/cachyos/comments/18rxftd/systemd_and_automated_restart_management_issues/</a><br>\n Because of it, whenever systemd packages got an update, it would disable the display manager, only to not restart it afterwards. This can result in the user either getting logged out or worse, trapped in a void between the running desktop environment and missing display manager.</p>\n<p><strong>Can't Log back in to session (KDE) after system idles to lock screen</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://discuss.cachyos.org/t/cant-log-back-in-to-session-kde-after-system-idles-to-lock-screen/23235/3\" target=\"_blank\">https://discuss.cachyos.org/t/cant-log-back-in-to-session-kde-after-system-idles-to-lock-screen/23235/3</a><br>\nFeb 17, 2026 wondering if it might have something to do with CachyOS migrating to plasma login manager from sddm, I’ve followed the instructions in here: and will report back on next restart if the login on idle issue has been resolved.</p>\n<p><strong>Long black screen after login and KDE session crash after some ...</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://discuss.cachyos.org/t/long-black-screen-after-login-and-kde-session-crash-after-some-minutes/13483\" target=\"_blank\">https://discuss.cachyos.org/t/long-black-screen-after-login-and-kde-session-crash-after-some-minutes/13483</a><br>\nAug 13, 2025 Okay, I have now disabled my iGPU in the BIOS settings and set Cachyos/KDE to always start a new session after restarting and not try to restore an old one. I have now been able to restart twice without any blackscreens or freezes.</p>\n<p><strong>Can't Log back in to session (KDE) after system... - CachyOS Forum</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://discuss.cachyos.org/t/cant-log-back-in-to-session-kde-after-system-idles-to-lock-screen/23235\" target=\"_blank\">https://discuss.cachyos.org/t/cant-log-back-in-to-session-kde-after-system-idles-to-lock-screen/23235</a><br>\nFeb 17, 2026 After running system update last night sudo pacman -Syyu and restarting and then logging in, overnight system idling initiated session lock (normal behavior), and attempting to log in this morning, I could enter my password, but nothing happened after submitting. Tried on the active session and second session (tty3?) looking at journalctl: Wiggled mouse for wake-up + powered on second display (same as I do every day): Feb 17 03:24:19 cachyos-um790 kernel: input: Logitech MX Anywhere 3 as /de...</p>\n<p><strong>NOTSOLVED Session restore in Wayland? / Applications & Desktop ...</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=292976\" target=\"_blank\">https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=292976</a><br>\nFeb 18, 2024 Hi, I switched recently from X to Wayland with KDE plasma (KDE Plasma version 5.27.10, KDE Frameworks 5.115.0 and QT 5.15.12) with kwin as the compositor. In \"KDE Settings > Startup and Shutdown > Desktop Session\" there is a \"Session Restore\" entry with the option \"When session was manually saved\".</p>\n<p>**<a href=\"https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=295511\" target=\"_blank\">https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=295511</a>wtopic.php?id=295511](https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=295511)<br>\n I've been using KDE and SDDM for a while but today after rebooting it doesn't start at boot, startplasma-x11 doesn't work while startplasma-wayland works just fine, the desktop environment works as expected after starting manually but it doesn't start up on its own, here's my .xinitrc:</p>\n<p><strong>KDE not restoring session no matter what I do... / Arch Linux Forums</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=274452\" target=\"_blank\">https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=274452</a><br>\nFeb 25, 2022 I'd start by looking for errors in the session journal, then the system journal. The DM might be relevant (notably DM ./. startx) and as for \"installed kde on a different laptop\": same version of KDE and archlinux etc.?When trying to manually restore session there is no option to save the session. Just checking the obvious, are you not able to set it via System Settings -> Desktop Session -> Restore manually saved session?</p>\n<p><strong>Help with KDE Plasma: Configuring Independent ... - Arch Linux Forums</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=301381\" target=\"_blank\">https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=301381</a><br>\n Wayland session restore is very wonky and very much WIP. Afaik you can only really expect that to work properly on a xorg session, as xorg has actual facilities that help with session restore.</p>\n<p><strong>KDE Hangs on Shutdown, Restart and Logout. Black ... - Arch Linux Forums</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=297684&p=2\" target=\"_blank\">https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=297684&p=2</a><br>\n In System settings > Session > Desktop Session, if I selected 'Start with an empty session' and rebooted, the original problem disappeared: plasma 'Restart' and 'Shut down' worked as expected. And if I then switched back to session restore 'On last logout' and rebooted, the original problem did not reappear.</p>\n<p><strong>unable to kill user-session with loginctl - Ask Ubuntu</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://askubuntu.com/questions/1369771/unable-to-kill-user-session-with-loginctl\" target=\"_blank\">https://askubuntu.com/questions/1369771/unable-to-kill-user-session-with-loginctl</a><br>\nOct 17, 2021 I'm running lubuntu 20.04 with sddm as display-manager. Whenever I logout over gui and login as a different user the user-session is not be killed (do not know if it is by-design). So loginctl shows me doupple sessions for my users. All sessions from my 2. user I killed with. killall -u second_user_name. for my main user 3 sessions remains. The session with the lowerst session id i could remove with. sudo loginctl kill-session 3.</p>\n<p><strong>command line - How can I logout from the GUI using CLI? - Ask Ubuntu</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://askubuntu.com/questions/180628/how-can-i-logout-from-the-gui-using-cli\" target=\"_blank\">https://askubuntu.com/questions/180628/how-can-i-logout-from-the-gui-using-cli</a><br>\nAug 12, 2014 $ loginctl kill-session 10 10 -- 1000 rugk seat0 tty2. You can tab through the sessions to find the correct one. Otherwise, if that does not work you can find the session ID by running loginctl list-sessions or just loginctl.The real problem is that the DBUS session variables must be set and match the session you're trying to control. I've created this script that does set the DBUS session variables from the gnome-session environment in case you want to logout other users/sessions: How to restart Gnome-Shell from command line?</p>\n<p><strong>Logging out other users from the command line - Ask Ubuntu</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://askubuntu.com/questions/12180/logging-out-other-users-from-the-command-line\" target=\"_blank\">https://askubuntu.com/questions/12180/logging-out-other-users-from-the-command-line</a><br>\nNov 09, 2010 (to kill a guest session user named guest-2Rw4Lq). Note (kudos to pbhj): If you get locked in a console, use Ctrl+Alt+F7 to get back to the GUI.Show activity on this post. I use the following, it has only one side-effect - it bumps you into the \"switch user\" login screen, however, it doesn't log you out :-) loginctl list-sessions. to list session IDs. loginctl terminate-session TARGET_SESSION_ID.</p>\n<p><strong>virtualization - virt-manager can't connect to</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://askubuntu.com/questions/345218/virt-manager-cant-connect-to-libvirt\" target=\"_blank\">https://askubuntu.com/questions/345218/virt-manager-cant-connect-to-libvirt</a><br>\nFeb 11, 2026 Usually just logout/login should be enough in this case to make the group membership changes propagate into current session, but for me personally there s not much difference between relogin and reboot (causes very similar disruption, the reboot takes just about 7s longer), so I rather used reboot \" just in case \" . ... The installer automatically added my user to the libvirtd group, I had restarted the libvirt-bin service, but I was still getting the error.</p>\n<p><strong>What is the functional difference between `loginctl terminate-session ...</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://serverfault.com/questions/1103060/what-is-the-functional-difference-between-loginctl-terminate-session-loginctl\" target=\"_blank\">https://serverfault.com/questions/1103060/what-is-the-functional-difference-between-loginctl-terminate-session-loginctl</a><br>\nJun 11, 2022 This kills all processes of the session and deallocates all resources attached to the session. but is this much different from kill-session -s SIGKILL? The problem I'm facing is after doing something like loginctl kill-session c###, the session no longer appears for the user in loginctl session-status or list-sessions, but systemctl status session-c###.scope will show it as abandoned, and the processes appear to remain according to ps.</p>\n</details>\n<details><summary>Updated plan</summary>\n<div class=\"codehilite\"><span class=\"filename\">diff</span><pre><span></span><code>@@ -48,3 +48,20 @@\n - loginctl enable-linger for persistent user sessions\n\n Need one more search for the complete recovery procedure and CachyOS specifics.\n+\n+## CachyOS specific findings\n+- CachyOS has had systemd and display manager issues\n+- Recent migration from SDDM to plasma login manager\n+- Some users report session restore issues\n+- loginctl kill-session and terminate-session commands available\n+\n+## Response outline\n+Based on research, I can now provide a comprehensive answer with multiple recovery approaches:\n+\n+1. Immediate diagnosis steps\n+2. Dbus session recovery\n+3. User systemd session restart\n+4. Session management with loginctl\n+5. Last resort options before reboot\n+\n+The key insight is that \"Transport endpoint is not connected\" indicates dbus communication failure, and there are several approaches to recover without full reboot.\n</code></pre></div>\n</details><p>Yes, this is very likely a dbus session issue. The \"Transport endpoint is not connected\" error typically means systemctl cannot communicate with systemd due to a broken dbus connection <sup class=\"trigger\"><a href=\"https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/36192#:~:text=transport%20endpoint%20not,process%20has%20died\">1</a><span class=\"tooltip top center citation\"><a href=\"https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/36192#:~:text=transport%20endpoint%20not,process%20has%20died\"><span class=\"source\"><img alt=\"\" src=\"https://p.kagi.com/proxy/favicons?c=lQ30-cxV_E2Vdyqb6hrbuYgId7qu7hecjO7o1T7aqQDFc7XpcLttL1Ryala-GNHJye4yFtnhZ7b3uL_uDtQjv6zCLPFWusm4lvLb6SKPCfI%3D\"> github.com</span><b>1. Transport endpoint is not connected · Issue #36192 · systemd ... - GitHub</b></a><span class=\"passage\">transport endpoint not connected This usually means that systemctl etc. cannot talk to systemd because the dbus connection is broken, e.g. because the dbus-broker process has died</span></span></sup>. Here are several recovery approaches you can try without rebooting:</p>\n<h2>1. Diagnose the Current State</h2>\n<p>First, check what's happening with your session:</p>\n<div class=\"codehilite\"><span class=\"filename\">Bash</span><pre><span></span><code><span class=\"c\"># Check current sessions</span>\n<span class=\"nf\">loginctl</span> list-sessions\n\n<span class=\"c\"># Check your user session status</span>\n<span class=\"nf\">loginctl</span> session-status\n\n<span class=\"c\"># Check if dbus session variables are set</span>\n<span class=\"nf\">echo</span> <span class=\"o\">$</span>DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS\n<span class=\"nf\">echo</span> <span class=\"o\">$</span>DBUS_SESSION_BUS_PID\n</code></pre></div>\n<h2>2. Restart Dbus Session (Careful Approach)</h2>\n<p><strong>Warning</strong>: Restarting user dbus can break things <sup class=\"trigger\"><a href=\"https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/18u78w6/protip_dont_restart_your_users_dbus_service/#:~:\">3</a><span class=\"tooltip top center citation\"><a href=\"https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/18u78w6/protip_dont_restart_your_users_dbus_service/#:~:\"><span class=\"source\"><img alt=\"\" src=\"https://p.kagi.com/proxy/favicons?c=lQ30-cxV_E2Vdyqb6hrbuYgId7qu7hecjO7o1T7aqQDFc7XpcLttL1Ryala-GNHJ-2ZqqXgwT-m6vcvZX_2cUpJsqUJgY5hpLDppjAB8i98%3D\"> www.reddit.com</span><b>3. Protip: don't restart your user's dbus service. Things break in a epic...</b></a><span class=\"passage\"></span></span></sup>, so try the gentler approaches first:</p>\n<div class=\"codehilite\"><span class=\"filename\">Bash</span><pre><span></span><code><span class=\"c\"># Try to re-export dbus session variables</span>\n<span class=\"k\">export</span> $(<span class=\"nf\">dbus-launch</span>)\n</code></pre></div>\n<p>Or the more robust version:</p>\n<div class=\"codehilite\"><span class=\"filename\">Bash</span><pre><span></span><code><span class=\"nf\">eval</span> `<span class=\"nf\">dbus-launch</span> <span class=\"no\">--auto-syntax</span>`\n</code></pre></div>\n<p>This sets <code>DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS</code> and <code>DBUS_SESSION_BUS_PID</code> properly <sup class=\"trigger\"><a href=\"https://stackoverflow.com/questions/47695548/how-can-i-do-export-dbus-launch-in-booting#:~:text=eval%20%5C%60dbus-launch%20--auto-syntax%60.,writing%20great%20answers.\">4</a><span class=\"tooltip top center citation\"><a href=\"https://stackoverflow.com/questions/47695548/how-can-i-do-export-dbus-launch-in-booting#:~:text=eval%20%5C%60dbus-launch%20--auto-syntax%60.,writing%20great%20answers.\"><span class=\"source\"><img alt=\"\" src=\"https://p.kagi.com/proxy/favicons?c=lQ30-cxV_E2Vdyqb6hrbuYgId7qu7hecjO7o1T7aqQDFc7XpcLttL1Ryala-GNHJrN94MAGqYPlcQNXHDBYc5aLbfREbHukc4f9EOHQ1MdU%3D\"> stackoverflow.com</span><b>4. yocto - How can I do \"export $(dbus-launch) in booting - Stack Overflow</b></a><span class=\"passage\">eval \\`dbus-launch --auto-syntax`. this will export \"DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS\" and \"DBUS_SESSION_BUS_PID\" with proper values. you can also use this scriptAsking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers. Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience. To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers.</span></span></sup><sup class=\"trigger\"><a href=\"https://stackoverflow.com/questions/41242460/how-to-export-dbus-session-bus-address#:~:text=export%20DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS%3D%24%28cat%20/tmp/dbus-session-addr.txt%29.,instead%20of%20dbus-launch.\">5</a><span class=\"tooltip top center citation\"><a href=\"https://stackoverflow.com/questions/41242460/how-to-export-dbus-session-bus-address#:~:text=export%20DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS%3D%24%28cat%20/tmp/dbus-session-addr.txt%29.,instead%20of%20dbus-launch.\"><span class=\"source\"><img alt=\"\" src=\"https://p.kagi.com/proxy/favicons?c=lQ30-cxV_E2Vdyqb6hrbuYgId7qu7hecjO7o1T7aqQDFc7XpcLttL1Ryala-GNHJrN94MAGqYPlcQNXHDBYc5aLbfREbHukc4f9EOHQ1MdU%3D\"> stackoverflow.com</span><b>5. How to export DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS - Stack Overflow</b></a><span class=\"passage\">export DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=$(cat /tmp/dbus-session-addr.txt). If your shell's sniffy about export-during-definition - some can be - do it in two stagesIt sounds like you are trying to get the value of DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS in order for your application to run correctly. Try running it with dbus-run-session instead of dbus-launch.</span></span></sup>.</p>\n<h2>3. Restart User Systemd Instance</h2>\n<p>Try restarting your user systemd instance:</p>\n<div class=\"codehilite\"><span class=\"filename\">Bash</span><pre><span></span><code><span class=\"c\"># Restart the user systemd daemon</span>\n<span class=\"nf\">systemctl</span> <span class=\"no\">--user</span> daemon-reexec\n</code></pre></div>\n<p>This restarts the per-user systemd instance without affecting the system <sup class=\"trigger\"><a href=\"https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/741349/redhat-how-to-update-systemd-and-dbus-without-reboot#:~:text=How%20do%20I,related%20term%3A%20%22linger%22.%29\">2</a><span class=\"tooltip top center citation\"><a href=\"https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/741349/redhat-how-to-update-systemd-and-dbus-without-reboot#:~:text=How%20do%20I,related%20term%3A%20%22linger%22.%29\"><span class=\"source\"><img alt=\"\" src=\"https://p.kagi.com/proxy/favicons?c=lQ30-cxV_E2Vdyqb6hrbuYgId7qu7hecjO7o1T7aqQDFc7XpcLttL1Ryala-GNHJWeULnqSt7NkIOxnupgcnEuJiYTnv6MgDUxM1NwUtzmZmvwh3eizJlaNAEdOoQ8LP\"> unix.stackexchange.com</span><b>2. rhel - RedHat: How to update systemd and dbus without reboot?</b></a><span class=\"passage\">How do I restart systemd and dbus without a reboot? I already tried. systemctl daemon-reexec. To restart the PID-1 process.Keep in mind that PID 1 is not the only instance of systemd, however – each user with an interactive logon session has their own per-user instance as well, which they can restart using systemctl --user daemon-reexec . (Those instances are managed as user@*.service ; related term: \"linger\".)</span></span></sup>.</p>\n<h2>4. Session Management with loginctl</h2>\n<p>If the above doesn't work, you can manage your session more aggressively:</p>\n<div class=\"codehilite\"><span class=\"filename\">Bash</span><pre><span></span><code><span class=\"c\"># List all sessions to find yours</span>\n<span class=\"nf\">loginctl</span> list-sessions\n\n<span class=\"c\"># Kill your current session (replace with your session ID)</span>\n<span class=\"nf\">loginctl</span> kill-session <span class=\"o\"><</span>session-id<span class=\"o\">></span>\n\n<span class=\"c\"># Or terminate it completely</span>\nloginctl terminate-session <span class=\"o\"><</span>session-id<span class=\"o\">></span>\n</code></pre></div>\n<p>Then log back in <sup class=\"trigger\"><a href=\"https://askubuntu.com/questions/180628/how-can-i-logout-from-the-gui-using-cli#:~:text=%24%20loginctl%20kill-session,from%20command%20line%3F\">6</a><span class=\"tooltip top center citation\"><a href=\"https://askubuntu.com/questions/180628/how-can-i-logout-from-the-gui-using-cli#:~:text=%24%20loginctl%20kill-session,from%20command%20line%3F\"><span class=\"source\"><img alt=\"\" src=\"https://p.kagi.com/proxy/favicons?c=lQ30-cxV_E2Vdyqb6hrbuYgId7qu7hecjO7o1T7aqQDFc7XpcLttL1Ryala-GNHJV80hRZ87iHUVTecVLy7LJuM2FkM2zBdcZrSS4jYKVMo%3D\"> askubuntu.com</span><b>6. command line - How can I logout from the GUI using CLI? - Ask Ubuntu</b></a><span class=\"passage\">$ loginctl kill-session 10 10 -- 1000 rugk seat0 tty2. You can tab through the sessions to find the correct one. Otherwise, if that does not work you can find the session ID by running loginctl list-sessions or just loginctl.The real problem is that the DBUS session variables must be set and match the session you're trying to control. I've created this script that does set the DBUS session variables from the gnome-session environment in case you want to logout other users/sessions: How to ...</span></span></sup><sup class=\"trigger\"><a href=\"https://superuser.com/questions/395820/how-to-properly-end-a-kde-session-from-shell-without-root-privileges#:~:text=The%20regular%20logoff,loginctl%20terminate-session%20%3Cid%3E.\">7</a><span class=\"tooltip top center citation\"><a href=\"https://superuser.com/questions/395820/how-to-properly-end-a-kde-session-from-shell-without-root-privileges#:~:text=The%20regular%20logoff,loginctl%20terminate-session%20%3Cid%3E.\"><span class=\"source\"><img alt=\"\" src=\"https://p.kagi.com/proxy/favicons?c=lQ30-cxV_E2Vdyqb6hrbuYgId7qu7hecjO7o1T7aqQDFc7XpcLttL1Ryala-GNHJBIfezTgffvs4QQGYvQfwLJveY_6Z_Q1MAKxCdbEk2ok%3D\"> superuser.com</span><b>7. How to properly end a KDE session from shell without root privileges</b></a><span class=\"passage\">The regular logoff button just ends the NX session without ending the KDE session. I cant call kdm restart as I have no root privileges. Other wild guesses like logout and exit do not work either, the first one complaining about not being in a login shell and the second one just closing the console.Show activity on this post. The accepted answer is a solution specific for KDE5, a more generic approach would be. loginctl list-sessions loginctl terminate-session <id>.</span></span></sup><sup class=\"trigger\"><a href=\"https://askubuntu.com/questions/1369771/unable-to-kill-user-session-with-loginctl#:~:text=I%27m%20running%20lubuntu,loginctl%20kill-session%203.\">8</a><span class=\"tooltip top center citation\"><a href=\"https://askubuntu.com/questions/1369771/unable-to-kill-user-session-with-loginctl#:~:text=I%27m%20running%20lubuntu,loginctl%20kill-session%203.\"><span class=\"source\"><img alt=\"\" src=\"https://p.kagi.com/proxy/favicons?c=lQ30-cxV_E2Vdyqb6hrbuYgId7qu7hecjO7o1T7aqQDFc7XpcLttL1Ryala-GNHJV80hRZ87iHUVTecVLy7LJuM2FkM2zBdcZrSS4jYKVMo%3D\"> askubuntu.com</span><b>8. unable to kill user-session with loginctl - Ask Ubuntu</b></a><span class=\"passage\">I'm running lubuntu 20.04 with sddm as display-manager. Whenever I logout over gui and login as a different user the user-session is not be killed (do not know if it is by-design). So loginctl shows me doupple sessions for my users. All sessions from my 2. user I killed with. killall -u second_user_name. for my main user 3 sessions remains. The session with the lowerst session id i could remove with. sudo loginctl kill-session 3.</span></span></sup>.</p>\n<h2>5. Switch to TTY and Restart Display Manager</h2>\n<p>If KDE is completely unresponsive:</p>\n<ol>\n<li>Switch to a TTY: <code>Ctrl+Alt+F2</code></li>\n<li>Log in as your user</li>\n<li>Try to restart the display manager:</li>\n</ol>\n<div class=\"codehilite\"><span class=\"filename\">Bash</span><pre><span></span><code><span class=\"nf\">sudo</span> systemctl restart sddm\n<span class=\"c\"># or if using the new plasma login manager:</span>\n<span class=\"nf\">sudo</span> systemctl restart plasma-login-manager\n</code></pre></div>\n<ol start=\"4\">\n<li>Switch back: <code>Ctrl+Alt+F1</code> or <code>Ctrl+Alt+F7</code></li>\n</ol>\n<h2>6. Enable Lingering (Preventive)</h2>\n<p>To prevent future session issues, enable lingering for your user:</p>\n<div class=\"codehilite\"><span class=\"filename\">Bash</span><pre><span></span><code><span class=\"nf\">sudo</span> loginctl enable-linger <span class=\"o\">$</span>USER\n</code></pre></div>\n<p>This keeps your user session active even when not logged in.</p>\n<h2>7. Last Resort Before Reboot</h2>\n<p>If nothing else works, try killing all your user processes and starting fresh:</p>\n<div class=\"codehilite\"><span class=\"filename\">Bash</span><pre><span></span><code><span class=\"c\"># From a TTY, kill all processes for your user</span>\n<span class=\"nf\">sudo</span> pkill <span class=\"no\">-u</span> <span class=\"o\">$</span>USER\n\n<span class=\"c\"># Then restart the display manager</span>\n<span class=\"nf\">sudo</span> systemctl restart sddm\n</code></pre></div>\n<h2>Why This Happens</h2>\n<p>This issue typically occurs when:</p>\n<ul>\n<li>The dbus-broker process dies</li>\n<li>User systemd session becomes corrupted</li>\n<li>Session management services fail</li>\n<li>System updates affect systemd/dbus without proper restart</li>\n</ul>\n<p>The key is that your user session's communication layer (dbus) has failed, but the system itself is fine, so these recovery methods should work without a full reboot.</p>\n<p>Try these approaches in order - the earlier ones are less disruptive. The dbus session restart (<code>export $(dbus-launch)</code>) is often the quickest fix if it works.</p>","md":"Yes, this is very likely a dbus session issue. The \"Transport endpoint is not connected\" error typically means systemctl cannot communicate with systemd due to a broken dbus connection [^1]. Here are several recovery approaches you can try without rebooting:\n\n## 1. Diagnose the Current State\n\nFirst, check what's happening with your session:\n```bash\n# Check current sessions\nloginctl list-sessions\n\n# Check your user session status\nloginctl session-status\n\n# Check if dbus session variables are set\necho $DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS\necho $DBUS_SESSION_BUS_PID\n```\n\n## 2. Restart Dbus Session (Careful Approach)\n\n**Warning**: Restarting user dbus can break things [^3], so try the gentler approaches first:\n\n```bash\n# Try to re-export dbus session variables\nexport $(dbus-launch)\n```\n\nOr the more robust version:\n```bash\neval `dbus-launch --auto-syntax`\n```\n\nThis sets `DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS` and `DBUS_SESSION_BUS_PID` properly [^4][^5].\n\n## 3. Restart User Systemd Instance\n\nTry restarting your user systemd instance:\n```bash\n# Restart the user systemd daemon\nsystemctl --user daemon-reexec\n```\n\nThis restarts the per-user systemd instance without affecting the system [^2].\n\n## 4. Session Management with loginctl\n\nIf the above doesn't work, you can manage your session more aggressively:\n\n```bash\n# List all sessions to find yours\nloginctl list-sessions\n\n# Kill your current session (replace with your session ID)\nloginctl kill-session <session-id>\n\n# Or terminate it completely\nloginctl terminate-session <session-id>\n```\n\nThen log back in [^6][^7][^8].\n\n## 5. Switch to TTY and Restart Display Manager\n\nIf KDE is completely unresponsive:\n\n1. Switch to a TTY: `Ctrl+Alt+F2`\n2. Log in as your user\n3. Try to restart the display manager:\n ```bash\n sudo systemctl restart sddm\n # or if using the new plasma login manager:\n sudo systemctl restart plasma-login-manager\n ```\n4. Switch back: `Ctrl+Alt+F1` or `Ctrl+Alt+F7`\n\n## 6. Enable Lingering (Preventive)\n\nTo prevent future session issues, enable lingering for your user:\n```bash\nsudo loginctl enable-linger $USER\n```\n\nThis keeps your user session active even when not logged in.\n\n## 7. Last Resort Before Reboot\n\nIf nothing else works, try killing all your user processes and starting fresh:\n```bash\n# From a TTY, kill all processes for your user\nsudo pkill -u $USER\n\n# Then restart the display manager\nsudo systemctl restart sddm\n```\n\n## Why This Happens\n\nThis issue typically occurs when:\n- The dbus-broker process dies\n- User systemd session becomes corrupted\n- Session management services fail\n- System updates affect systemd/dbus without proper restart\n\nThe key is that your user session's communication layer (dbus) has failed, but the system itself is fine, so these recovery methods should work without a full reboot.\n\nTry these approaches in order - the earlier ones are less disruptive. 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The Ultimate Guide. - Medium](https://medium.com/@williamwsm/magic-sysrq-key-to-the-rescue-d3154a095a44) (16%)\n[^5]: [Linux Magic System Request Key Hacks - The Linux Kernel Archives](https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/admin-guide/sysrq.html) (14%)\n[^6]: [kernel - ALT+SysRq+REISUB hangs at \"resetting...\" - Ask Ubuntu](https://askubuntu.com/questions/31126/altsysrqreisub-hangs-at-resetting-without-actually-resetting-restarting) (8%)\n[^7]: [Random partial system freezes kde plasma - CachyOS Forum](https://discuss.cachyos.org/t/random-partial-system-freezes-kde-plasma/19920) (6%)\n","reply":"<details><summary>Scratchpad.md</summary>\n<hr>\n<p>query_type: depth-first</p>\n<hr>\n<h2>Situation Analysis</h2>\n<p>User has a severe system freeze/hang on CachyOS with KDE:</p>\n<ul>\n<li>App launches timeout</li>\n<li>systemctl commands timeout</li>\n<li>loginctl commands timeout</li>\n<li>Can't switch to TTY (Ctrl+Alt+F2 not working)</li>\n<li>Even plasma shell restart fails with dbus transport error</li>\n</ul>\n<p>This suggests a deeper system issue than just dbus session problems. Need to find recovery methods that work when the system is mostly unresponsive but not completely frozen.</p>\n<h2>Research Plan</h2>\n<ol>\n<li>Look for CachyOS-specific recovery methods</li>\n<li>Find kernel-level recovery techniques (SysRq keys)</li>\n<li>Check for systemd/dbus recovery when system is mostly hung</li>\n<li>Look for ways to recover when TTY switching fails</li>\n</ol>\n<h2>Initial Findings</h2>\n<ul>\n<li>CachyOS users report similar issues with partial system freezes where TTY switching fails</li>\n<li>This appears to be a known issue with KDE Plasma on CachyOS</li>\n<li>Need to look into SysRq magic keys and other kernel-level recovery methods</li>\n<li>Some users report hard freezes where only power cycling works</li>\n</ul>\n<h2>SysRq Magic Keys Research</h2>\n<ul>\n<li>Magic SysRq key is Alt+SysRq (usually Print Screen key)</li>\n<li>REISUB sequence: R-E-I-S-U-B for safe reboot</li>\n<li>Works at kernel level, should work even when TTY switching fails</li>\n<li>CachyOS has specific instructions for enabling SysRq: <code>echo 'kernel.sysrq=1' | sudo tee /etc/sysctl.d/99-reisub.conf</code></li>\n<li>Can be enabled instantly with <code>sudo sysctl kernel.sysrq=1</code></li>\n<li>Some systems need specific key combinations (like Fn+Home on Dell laptops)</li>\n</ul>\n<h2>Key Recovery Methods Found</h2>\n<ol>\n<li>SysRq magic keys (if enabled)</li>\n<li>Force kill user systemd session from another session</li>\n<li>systemctl --user daemon-reexec (but this is timing out for user)</li>\n<li>Hard reset as last resort</li>\n</ol>\n<h2>Response Plan</h2>\n<p>Focus on SysRq keys as primary solution since TTY switching fails and systemctl commands timeout</p>\n</details><details><summary>Created plan</summary>\n<div class=\"codehilite\"><span class=\"filename\">diff</span><pre><span></span><code>@@ -0,0 +1,19 @@\n+---\n+query_type: depth-first\n+---\n+\n+## Situation Analysis\n+User has a severe system freeze/hang on CachyOS with KDE:\n+- App launches timeout\n+- systemctl commands timeout\n+- loginctl commands timeout \n+- Can't switch to TTY (Ctrl+Alt+F2 not working)\n+- Even plasma shell restart fails with dbus transport error\n+\n+This suggests a deeper system issue than just dbus session problems. Need to find recovery methods that work when the system is mostly unresponsive but not completely frozen.\n+\n+## Research Plan\n+1. Look for CachyOS-specific recovery methods\n+2. Find kernel-level recovery techniques (SysRq keys)\n+3. Check for systemd/dbus recovery when system is mostly hung\n+4. Look for ways to recover when TTY switching fails\n</code></pre></div>\n</details>\n<details><summary>Searched with Kagi<p></p>\n<ul>\n<li>CachyOS system freeze recovery TTY not working</li>\n<li>Linux system hang recovery when TTY switch fails</li>\n<li>systemd hung session recovery without reboot</li></ul></summary><br>\nSources (15):<br>\n<strong>Random partial system freezes kde plasma - CachyOS Forum</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://discuss.cachyos.org/t/random-partial-system-freezes-kde-plasma/19920\" target=\"_blank\">https://discuss.cachyos.org/t/random-partial-system-freezes-kde-plasma/19920</a><br>\nDec 16, 2025 Steam's patching operation would freeze the system almost immediately. When the system was in its frozen state I could not access tty or ...\n\n<p><strong>Boot Fail, Unsuccessful TTY / chroot - Issues & Assistance - CachyOS Forum</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://discuss.cachyos.org/t/boot-fail-unsuccessful-tty-chroot/11993\" target=\"_blank\">https://discuss.cachyos.org/t/boot-fail-unsuccessful-tty-chroot/11993</a><br>\n Here we will cover common causes and solutions to ‘cachyos wont boot’. TTY If your desktop does not load properly then you might still be able to use most, if not all, functionality by dropping to a non-graphical TTY. By default your system will have multiple TTYs, with each corresponding to an Fx key.</p>\n<p>**<a href=\"https://discuss.cachyos.org/t/tutorial-how-to-resolve-an-unbootable-cachyos-system-black-screen-login-failed-cant-boot-etc/12132\" target=\"_blank\">https://discuss.cachyos.org/t/tutorial-how-to-resolve-an-unbootable-cachyos-system-black-screen-login-failed-cant-boot-etc/12132</a>achyos-system-black-screen-login-failed-cant-boot-etc/12132)<br>\nJul 26, 2025 Introduction When we have problems gaining access to our systems it is difficult to gather information, let alone fix any problems. Here we will cover common causes and solutions to ‘cachyos wont boot’. TTY If your desktop does not load properly then you might still be able to use most, if not all, functionality by dropping to a non-graphical TTY. By default your system will have multiple ...</p>\n<p><strong>Issue Fixed - Black screen with cursor not blinking, tty3 will freeze up</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://discuss.cachyos.org/t/issue-fixed-black-screen-with-cursor-not-blinking-tty3-will-freeze-up/16855\" target=\"_blank\">https://discuss.cachyos.org/t/issue-fixed-black-screen-with-cursor-not-blinking-tty3-will-freeze-up/16855</a><br>\nOct 10, 2025 Issue Fixed I just helped myself. Hello CachyOS community, this is my first time using Linux as mainstream device on my first laptop, everything went well in my finish setting up my device with program I wanted to install, but today I tried to restart my machine after few days didn’t shutdown plus little heat to cool down, but I still have run system updates by doing sudo pacman -Syu and yay ...</p>\n<p><strong>CachyOS freezes randomly - Issues & Assistance - CachyOS Forum</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://discuss.cachyos.org/t/cachyos-freezes-randomly/21266\" target=\"_blank\">https://discuss.cachyos.org/t/cachyos-freezes-randomly/21266</a><br>\nJan 14, 2026 Since a few months i am running cachyOS on my HDPC, but a few weeks ago it started randly freeze up the entire system and i can’t normal boot the system anymore. It freezes so hard, that switching to another TTY does not work and no input is recognized anymore. Also the display does not update anymore. At this point, the HDD led is blinking in a 1-2 second interval and nothing happens anymore. The only thing i can do is to hard power of the system, wait a few secs and then power it on again.</p>\n<p><strong>Display freezes up randomly, can't even access tty. : r/archlinux</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://www.reddit.com/r/archlinux/comments/jqbym3/display_freezes_up_randomly_cant_even_access_tty/\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.reddit.com/r/archlinux/comments/jqbym3/display_freezes_up_randomly_cant_even_access_tty/</a><br>\nNov 08, 2020 Display freezes up randomly, can't even access tty. For some reason, my system started freezing up recently, but only the display, as you can still usually hear the music continue playing. One time I was still able to move the mouse when the display froze for ~1 second, but then the mouse also froze.</p>\n<p><strong>System shutdown/reboot hangs until tty1 is shown - Reddit</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://www.reddit.com/r/archlinux/comments/rhfrtf/system_shutdownreboot_hangs_until_tty1_is_shown/\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.reddit.com/r/archlinux/comments/rhfrtf/system_shutdownreboot_hangs_until_tty1_is_shown/</a><br>\n System shutdown/reboot hangs until tty1 is shown Hey all, I'm running into a really weird issue where my system hangs seemingly indefinitely while shutting down (not sure when the watchdog would kick in) unless I switch to tty1 after it begins hanging. Once I switch it, it almost instantly shuts down (within 2 seconds according to journalctl.</p>\n<p><strong>System hangs on Switch Root, SDDM fails, can't log in</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://www.reddit.com/r/archlinux/comments/wnex5z/system_hangs_on_switch_root_sddm_fails_cant_log_in/\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.reddit.com/r/archlinux/comments/wnex5z/system_hangs_on_switch_root_sddm_fails_cant_log_in/</a><br>\n Attempting to switch TTY (Alt + F*) on SDDM or the black post-login screen gives yet another black screen with no terminal prompt. Any help on this issue is appreciated as due to the strange and spontaneous nature of the issue I'm a little lost as to where to start. I can still arch-chroot into the system with an install USB just fine.</p>\n<p><strong>If I can recoup from a system hang by backing out to TTY, how ... - Reddit</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://www.reddit.com/r/linux4noobs/comments/gvmh90/if_i_can_recoup_from_a_system_hang_by_backing_out/\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.reddit.com/r/linux4noobs/comments/gvmh90/if_i_can_recoup_from_a_system_hang_by_backing_out/</a><br>\n (This crash/hang is an ongoing issue, and the fact that I actually was able to get back to a GUI, let alone function after the hangup is a whole new thing, as it's never been this successful before. But, that is not the situation I'm asking for help.) Let me know if you want any output from inxi, journalctl, dmesg, or any others.</p>\n<p><strong>Resetting a Broken TTY | Baeldung on Linux</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://www.baeldung.com/linux/tty-restore-broken-terminal\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.baeldung.com/linux/tty-restore-broken-terminal</a><br>\nSep 15, 2022 Terminals are the windows to the Linux operating system. Like in the real world, windows sometimes get broken. Whether due to a bad command, random data, key combination, or a bug, our current terminal may break and stop functioning properly.Terminals can break in many ways: misbehaving processes, TTY or PTY misconfiguration, shell issues, or even kernel problems. Let’s look at some common ways a terminal can stop functioning correctly. 2.1. Long Running or Hung Commands.</p>\n<p><strong>systemd: recover from systemctl hang - Stack Overflow</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://stackoverflow.com/questions/45376799/systemd-recover-from-systemctl-hang\" target=\"_blank\">https://stackoverflow.com/questions/45376799/systemd-recover-from-systemctl-hang</a><br>\nJul 28, 2017 The problem is: systemd/systemctl hangs in that state, and i'm unable to do start/stop/restart actions because all of them stays waiting forever. What i need to know is a way around that state. This time I just rebooted the server, because it was development environment. But i can't just deal this way on production. So: when systemd/systemctl hangs this way, what can I do in order to recover my service from this state without rebooting the server?</p>\n<p><strong>network programming - restart systemd-networkd .link files without...</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://stackoverflow.com/questions/62788508/restart-systemd-networkd-link-files-without-reboot\" target=\"_blank\">https://stackoverflow.com/questions/62788508/restart-systemd-networkd-link-files-without-reboot</a><br>\nJul 08, 2020 I have a eth0.link file to change MAC address of interface eth0. I want to apply this change without reboot. I tried. systemctl daemon-reload systemctl daemon-reexec systemctl restart systemd-networkd. Is any other to restart .link file.Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers. Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience.</p>\n<p><strong>linux - systemctl disable name.service doesn't persist after reboot</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://stackoverflow.com/questions/43630934/systemctl-disable-name-service-doesnt-persist-after-reboot\" target=\"_blank\">https://stackoverflow.com/questions/43630934/systemctl-disable-name-service-doesnt-persist-after-reboot</a><br>\nJun 22, 2017 There is a third level of \"off\" with systemd that you can try, called \"masking\"sudo systemctl start foo.service. Step 8: Restart the machine and on the next boot you will notice that the Bluetooth service is no longer enabled by default on startup. You can still enable it when ever you like in the settings, or the terminal it is behaving without any errors.</p>\n<p><strong>Systemd hangs at reboot/shutdown. No logs available</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/774877/systemd-hangs-at-reboot-shutdown-no-logs-available\" target=\"_blank\">https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/774877/systemd-hangs-at-reboot-shutdown-no-logs-available</a><br>\n 2 How can I figure out what service is stalling systemd during shutdown if I can't get a log? I've been struggling for days trying to figure out what is causing systemd to hang whenever I try to reboot or shutdown. It gets part way through the shutdown process, but never completes. This system is on a machine with only a serial console for access.</p>\n<p><strong>Can I restart systemd without rebooting?</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/419374/can-i-restart-systemd-without-rebooting\" target=\"_blank\">https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/419374/can-i-restart-systemd-without-rebooting</a><br>\nJan 24, 2018 # needs-restarting 1 : /usr/lib/systemd/systemd --system --deserialize 21. Can I restart systemd without rebooting the server, and how? I found a few mentions of systemctl daemon-reload , but this doesn't make it disappear from the needs-restarting list.Hang on, you can't upvote just yet. You'll need to complete a few actions and gain 15 reputation points before being able to upvote.</p>\n</details>\n<details><summary>Updated plan</summary>\n<div class=\"codehilite\"><span class=\"filename\">diff</span><pre><span></span><code>@@ -17,3 +17,9 @@\n 2. Find kernel-level recovery techniques (SysRq keys)\n 3. Check for systemd/dbus recovery when system is mostly hung\n 4. Look for ways to recover when TTY switching fails\n+\n+## Initial Findings\n+- CachyOS users report similar issues with partial system freezes where TTY switching fails\n+- This appears to be a known issue with KDE Plasma on CachyOS\n+- Need to look into SysRq magic keys and other kernel-level recovery methods\n+- Some users report hard freezes where only power cycling works\n</code></pre></div>\n</details>\n<details><summary>Searched with Kagi<p></p>\n<ul>\n<li>Linux SysRq magic keys system recovery</li>\n<li>Alt+SysRq+REISUB system recovery</li>\n<li>kernel level recovery when TTY fails Linux</li></ul></summary><br>\nSources (15):<br>\n<strong>Magic SysRq Key To The Rescue! The Ultimate Guide. - Medium</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://medium.com/@williamwsm/magic-sysrq-key-to-the-rescue-d3154a095a44\" target=\"_blank\">https://medium.com/@williamwsm/magic-sysrq-key-to-the-rescue-d3154a095a44</a><br>\nMay 24, 2023 The default key combination for the Magic SysRq Key is Alt+SysRq, and don’t be worried if you can’t locate this key: it is generally the same as your Print Screen key, even if it’s not written SysRq there. The easiest way to check if the Magic SysRq Key is working, without triggering any function, is by checking the system log file while pressing the following key combination\n\n<p><strong>Linux Magic System Request Key Hacks - The Linux Kernel Archives</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/admin-guide/sysrq.html\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/admin-guide/sysrq.html</a><br>\nJan 30, 2018 Linux Magic System Request Key Hacks ¶ Documentation for sysrq.c What is the magic SysRq key? ¶ It is a ‘magical’ key combo you can hit which the kernel will respond to regardless of whatever else it is doing, unless it is completely locked up. How do I enable the magic SysRq key? ¶ You need to say “yes” to ‘Magic SysRq key (CONFIG_MAGIC_SYSRQ)’ when configuring the kernel. When ...</p>\n<p><strong>Hacking Guide</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/kernel-hacking/index.html\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/kernel-hacking/index.html</a><br>\n Unreliable Guide To Hacking The Linux Kernel Introduction The Players Some Basic Rules ioctls: Not writing a new system call Recipes for Deadlock Common Routines Wait Queues include/linux/wait.h Atomic Operations Symbols Routines and Conventions Putting Your Stuff in the Kernel Kernel Cantrips Thanks Unreliable Guide To Locking Introduction</p>\n<p><strong>Submitting Patches</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/process/submitting-patches.html\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/process/submitting-patches.html</a><br>\n Submitting patches: the essential guide to getting your code into the kernel ¶ For a person or company who wishes to submit a change to the Linux kernel, the process can sometimes be daunting if you’re not familiar with “the system.” This text is a collection of suggestions which can greatly increase the chances of your change being accepted. This document contains a large number of ...</p>\n<p><strong>Linux Magic System Request Key Hacks</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/v4.11/admin-guide/sysrq.html\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/v4.11/admin-guide/sysrq.html</a><br>\nJun 01, 2017 How do I use the magic SysRq key?I want to add SysRQ key events to a module, how does it work? When I hit a SysRq key combination only the header appears on the console?</p>\n<p><strong>Alt + sysrq + REISUB doesn't reboot my laptop - Ask Ubuntu</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://askubuntu.com/questions/11002/alt-sysrq-reisub-doesnt-reboot-my-laptop\" target=\"_blank\">https://askubuntu.com/questions/11002/alt-sysrq-reisub-doesnt-reboot-my-laptop</a><br>\nNov 02, 2010 Holding Alt + PrtSc only works if some system process (window manager?) translates it for me. On total crash, only the real SysRq works!Show activity on this post. Make sure you are holding alt while pressing print screen + reisub. In my computer, if I press alt+print screen and release all buttons, then press reisub, it doesn't reboot my computer. Pressing alt and hold it, then press the other keys works.</p>\n<p><strong>kernel - ALT+SysRq+REISUB hangs at \"resetting...\" - Ask Ubuntu</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://askubuntu.com/questions/31126/altsysrqreisub-hangs-at-resetting-without-actually-resetting-restarting\" target=\"_blank\">https://askubuntu.com/questions/31126/altsysrqreisub-hangs-at-resetting-without-actually-resetting-restarting</a><br>\nApr 24, 2017 I'm trying Alt + SysRq + REISUB to see how it would be used to restart my system safely in case of emergency. However, I find that Alt + SysRq + REISUB hangs at \"resetting\" (without actually resetting/restarting) in Maverick. All other SysRq combinations appear to work correctly (i.e. Alt + SysRq + REISU). cat /proc/sys/kernel/sysrq returns 0. But I'm not sure it's relevant because Alt + SysRq certainly works. What can I do to have \"B\" actually restart the system?</p>\n<p><strong>shortcut keys - How to get Alt+SysRq work on a Dell... - Ask Ubuntu</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://askubuntu.com/questions/168502/how-to-get-altsysrq-work-on-a-dell-latitude-e6530\" target=\"_blank\">https://askubuntu.com/questions/168502/how-to-get-altsysrq-work-on-a-dell-latitude-e6530</a><br>\nApr 24, 2017 I have a Dell Latitude E6530. The keyboard has a SysRq key (Fn+Home). However the magic keys (especially the famous REISUB) doesn't work. SysRq is enabled in /proc/sys/kernel/sysrq (I get 1 if I cat this file). It works from external USB keybord. How can I have the Alt+SysRq+REISUB (in fact, Alt+Fn+Home+REISUB) reboot my system?</p>\n<p><strong>performance - What should I do when Ubuntu freezes?</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://askubuntu.com/questions/4408/what-should-i-do-when-ubuntu-freezes\" target=\"_blank\">https://askubuntu.com/questions/4408/what-should-i-do-when-ubuntu-freezes</a><br>\nJan 02, 2026 ... If it locks up completely, you can REISUB it, which is a safer alternative to just cold rebooting the computer. ... Ubuntu ships with sysrq default setting 176 (128+32+16), which allows to run only SUB part of REISUB combination. ... If the keyboard still works, press Alt + F2 and run gnome-terminal (or, if these fail to launch, press Alt + Ctrl + F1 and login with your username and password ).</p>\n<p><strong>Magic SysRq key - Wikipedia</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key\" target=\"_blank\">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key</a><br>\nDec 29, 2025 Principal among the offered commands are means to forcibly unmount file systems, kill processes, recover keyboard state, and write unwritten data to disk. ... Before the advent of journaled filesystems a common use of the magic SysRq key was to perform a safe reboot of a locked-up Linux computer (using the sequence of key presses indicated by the mnemonic REISUB ), which ... The hangwatch 17 daemon will invoke pre-configured SysRq triggers when system load average exceeds a certain threshold.</p>\n<p><strong>Debugging and Fixing TTY Bugs in Linux Terminals - Hoop.dev</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://hoop.dev/blog/debugging-and-fixing-tty-bugs-in-linux-terminals/\" target=\"_blank\">https://hoop.dev/blog/debugging-and-fixing-tty-bugs-in-linux-terminals/</a><br>\nOct 16, 2025 A Linux terminal bug in tty can bring entire workflows to a halt. When tty misbehaves, scripts fail, processes hang, and automation chains break ...</p>\n<p><strong>Resetting a Broken TTY | Baeldung on Linux</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://www.baeldung.com/linux/tty-restore-broken-terminal\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.baeldung.com/linux/tty-restore-broken-terminal</a><br>\nSep 15, 2022 Actually, it’s easy for the above to occur when using a PID number instead of the $$ special variable. In that case, entering an incorrect PID may send the signal to a wrong but existing process. Naturally, the methods we discussed do not comprise all possible ways to make terminals behave badly. However, we’ll discuss many ways to reset a terminal, so we can cover our bases. Now, after we managed to ruin both our TTY/PTY and our shell, let’s see what we can do to correct them.</p>\n<p><strong>Linux Emergency Recovery With init=/bin/bash - Baeldung</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://www.baeldung.com/linux/emergency-recovery-init-bin-bash\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.baeldung.com/linux/emergency-recovery-init-bin-bash</a><br>\nJun 10, 2025 4. Recovering a Broken Linux Installation. Here we’ll try to identify and resolve some issues preventing our Linux machine from booting. 4.1. Fix Disk Errors Preventing Booting. Unexpected power outages can leave a Linux system inoperable upon reboot. This includes virtual private servers, where abrupt reboots during cloud provider maintenance can leave guest operating systems with corrupted file systems.</p>\n<p><strong>Arch Linux Failure to Boot | Baeldung on Linux</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://www.baeldung.com/linux/arch-boot-failure\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.baeldung.com/linux/arch-boot-failure</a><br>\nJan 30, 2025 Learn how to resolve boot failure issues on Arch Linux, commonly signaled by the message \"\"can't access tty: job control turned off.\"4. Step-by-Step Recovery Guide. When an Arch Linux system fails to boot, it can be concerning. However, we can restore the system with a live environment and a systematic approach. Let’s explore the recovery process.</p>\n<p><strong>tty login fails without any error message - Ask Ubuntu</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://askubuntu.com/questions/608613/tty-login-fails-without-any-error-message\" target=\"_blank\">https://askubuntu.com/questions/608613/tty-login-fails-without-any-error-message</a><br>\nApr 13, 2015 Select your current kernel's recovery mode (e.g. Ubuntu 12.04 x.xx.xx-xx-generic (recovery mode) ) and hit Enter. grub2-2. Select root - Drop ...</p>\n</details>\n<details><summary>Updated plan</summary>\n<div class=\"codehilite\"><span class=\"filename\">diff</span><pre><span></span><code>@@ -23,3 +23,10 @@\n - This appears to be a known issue with KDE Plasma on CachyOS\n - Need to look into SysRq magic keys and other kernel-level recovery methods\n - Some users report hard freezes where only power cycling works\n+\n+## SysRq Magic Keys Research\n+- Magic SysRq key is Alt+SysRq (usually Print Screen key)\n+- REISUB sequence: R-E-I-S-U-B for safe reboot\n+- Works at kernel level, should work even when TTY switching fails\n+- Need to check if SysRq is enabled on CachyOS\n+- Some systems need specific key combinations (like Fn+Home on Dell laptops)\n</code></pre></div>\n</details>\n<details><summary>Searched with Kagi<p></p>\n<ul>\n<li>CachyOS enable SysRq magic keys</li>\n<li>systemd user session recovery without reboot</li>\n<li>kill systemd user session force restart</li></ul></summary><br>\nSources (15):<br>\n**<a href=\"https://discuss.cachyos.org/t/tip-enable-magic-sysrq-key-reisub/11028\" target=\"_blank\">https://discuss.cachyos.org/t/tip-enable-magic-sysrq-key-reisub/11028</a>s.cachyos.org/t/tip-enable-magic-sysrq-key-reisub/11028)<br>\nJul 04, 2025 This is called the “Magic SysRq Key”, because these commands are issued by pressing the SysRq key on the keyboard (if you can’t find it, typically, it shares the same physical key as the Print Screen key, but on some laptops it can be elsewhere).This is how you enable it: Run this command in the terminal: echo 'kernel.sysrq=1' | sudo tee /etc/sysctl.d/99-reisub.conf.\n\n<p><strong>FAQ and Tutorials - CachyOS Forum</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://discuss.cachyos.org/c/faq-and-tutorials/18?page=2\" target=\"_blank\">https://discuss.cachyos.org/c/faq-and-tutorials/18?page=2</a><br>\n [Tip] Enable Magic SysRq Key (REISUB). 4, 955, September 13, 2025 ; Speeding up GRUB unlock on CachyOS with LUKS/Btrfs. 3, 952, September 11, 2025.</p>\n<p><strong>How do I enable the SysRq keys? : r/archlinux - Reddit</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://www.reddit.com/r/archlinux/comments/glo3b3/how_do_i_enable_the_sysrq_keys/\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.reddit.com/r/archlinux/comments/glo3b3/how_do_i_enable_the_sysrq_keys/</a><br>\nMay 17, 2020 If you run sudo sysctl kernel.sysrq=1 , it should get enabled instantly. After that, press CTRL+ALT+F2 to go to second TTY, log in ...</p>\n<p><strong>Linux Magic System Request Key Hacks - Kernel</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://docs.kernel.org/6.8/admin-guide/sysrq.html\" target=\"_blank\">https://docs.kernel.org/6.8/admin-guide/sysrq.html</a><br>\n Linux Magic System Request Key Hacks ¶ Documentation for sysrq.c What is the magic SysRq key? ¶ It is a 'magical' key combo you can hit which the kernel will respond to regardless of whatever else it is doing, unless it is completely locked up. How do I enable the magic SysRq key? ¶ You need to say \"yes\" to 'Magic SysRq key (CONFIG_MAGIC_SYSRQ)' when configuring the kernel. When running a ...</p>\n<p><strong>Linux Magic System Request Key Hacks</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://docs.kernel.org/admin-guide/sysrq.html\" target=\"_blank\">https://docs.kernel.org/admin-guide/sysrq.html</a><br>\nOct 09, 2021 It is a ‘magical’ key combo you can hit which the kernel will respond to regardless of whatever else it is doing, unless it is completely locked up. How do I enable the magic SysRq key?¶ You need to say “yes” to ‘Magic SysRq key (CONFIG_MAGIC_SYSRQ)’ when configuring the kernel. When running a kernel with SysRq compiled in, /proc/sys/kernel/sysrq controls the functions allowed to be invoked via the SysRq key.</p>\n<p><strong>Can I restart systemd without rebooting?</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/419374/can-i-restart-systemd-without-rebooting\" target=\"_blank\">https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/419374/can-i-restart-systemd-without-rebooting</a><br>\nJan 24, 2018 # needs-restarting 1 : /usr/lib/systemd/systemd --system --deserialize 21. Can I restart systemd without rebooting the server, and how? I found a few mentions of systemctl daemon-reload , but this doesn't make it disappear from the needs-restarting list.These cookies enable the website to provide enhanced functionality and personalisation. They may be set by us or by third party providers whose services we have added to our pages.</p>\n<p><strong>systemd - How to apply lingering immediately - Unix & Linux Stack Exchange</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/462845/how-to-apply-lingering-immediately\" target=\"_blank\">https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/462845/how-to-apply-lingering-immediately</a><br>\n As per this answer, I enabled lingering for a user on a headless system. However in loginctl list-sessions, the user is not listed yet. If I login with this user by ssh it is shown, once I disconnect again it is missing. How can I generate the lingering session without restarting the entire system? I have unsuccessfully tried to systemctl restart systemd-logind. Edit: My goal is to run a timer ...</p>\n<p><strong>rhel - RedHat: How to update systemd and dbus without reboot?</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/741349/redhat-how-to-update-systemd-and-dbus-without-reboot\" target=\"_blank\">https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/741349/redhat-how-to-update-systemd-and-dbus-without-reboot</a><br>\nMar 30, 2023 How do I restart systemd and dbus without a reboot? I already tried. systemctl daemon-reexec. To restart the PID-1 process.Keep in mind that PID 1 is not the only instance of systemd, however – each user with an interactive logon session has their own per-user instance as well, which they can restart using systemctl --user daemon-reexec . (Those instances are managed as user@*.service ; related term: \"linger\".)</p>\n<p><strong>permissions - Poweroff or Reboot as normal User - Unix & Linux Stack...</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/85663/poweroff-or-reboot-as-normal-user\" target=\"_blank\">https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/85663/poweroff-or-reboot-as-normal-user</a><br>\nSep 21, 2013 To run the command poweroff or reboot one needs to be super user. Is there anyway I can run this as a normal user? I just don't want to sudo and enter my password every time I reboot or power off.The answer depends on which init system your distro uses... For example, with systemd and an active logind session you can reboot or poweroff without elevated privileges providing no other user is still logged in...</p>\n<p><strong>Navigating Systemd's User Sessions and Services</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://www.funwithlinux.net/systemd-service-management/navigating-systemd-s-user-sessions-and-services/\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.funwithlinux.net/systemd-service-management/navigating-systemd-s-user-sessions-and-services/</a><br>\nNov 28, 2025 Tied to user session (unless lingering). Persists across reboots (unless transient). Use Cases. Personal scripts, background apps (e.g., Syncthing, Redshift), user cron jobs. System daemons (e.g., sshd, nginx), hardware management (e.g., bluetooth.service).7. Conclusion. Systemd user sessions and services empower users to automate tasks, manage background apps, and customize their environment without root access. By leveraging systemctl --user, user timers, and lingering, you can build a robust, personalized workflow tailored to your needs.</p>\n<p><strong>Stop systemd from killing user slices on reboot - Stack Overflow</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://stackoverflow.com/questions/42913549/stop-systemd-from-killing-user-slices-on-reboot\" target=\"_blank\">https://stackoverflow.com/questions/42913549/stop-systemd-from-killing-user-slices-on-reboot</a><br>\nMar 20, 2017 A user slice and session aren't even created with the su on Arch. My service file: [Unit] Description=Starts and stops applications needed for an environment Wants=network.target httpd.service After=network.target httpd.service sshd.service.I wish there was a way to tell systemd to ignore or delay killing user sessions somehow. Yes, by using SendSIGKILL=no but here the issue is not the systemd is killing the process, during OS restart Kernel kills all the user slice process.</p>\n<p><strong>How to automatically restart systemd service that is killed due to OOM</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://stackoverflow.com/questions/74480380/how-to-automatically-restart-systemd-service-that-is-killed-due-to-oom\" target=\"_blank\">https://stackoverflow.com/questions/74480380/how-to-automatically-restart-systemd-service-that-is-killed-due-to-oom</a><br>\nNov 17, 2022 For services started by systemd, the parent is systemd.The systemd documentation of the behavior of the various Restart settings provides pretty good detail on which termination circumstances lead to restart with which Restart settings. Termination because of a SIGKILL is what the message presented in the question shows, and this would fall into the \"unclean signal\" category, as systemd defines that.</p>\n<p><strong>'systemd' kills normal user subprocesses - Stack Overflow</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://stackoverflow.com/questions/54494250/systemd-kills-normal-user-subprocesses\" target=\"_blank\">https://stackoverflow.com/questions/54494250/systemd-kills-normal-user-subprocesses</a><br>\nFeb 05, 2019 Explore Stack Internal. 'systemd' kills normal user subprocesses.How I think it works: # Service starts when target 'local-fs.target' is reached, preferably, when target 'network.target' # is also reached. This last target is reached even if the router is powered off (tested). # Service start sequence runs script: 'ExecStart=/etc/after_boot.local' which is expected # to spawn child processes and exit: 'Type=forking'.</p>\n<p><strong>How to prevent systemd from killing a process that belongs to an idle ...</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://access.redhat.com/solutions/7096473\" target=\"_blank\">https://access.redhat.com/solutions/7096473</a><br>\n All processes started by a user during a session get killed when the inactivity timeout is reached. Using nohup to start a process does not solve the problem. Processes are killed even when having KillUserProcesses=no in the configuration file. Environment Red Hat Enterprise Linux (REHEL) 8, 9 systemd-logind</p>\n<p><strong>Systemd kills user process after logout even if KillUserProcesses is...</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/8486\" target=\"_blank\">https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/8486</a><br>\nMar 19, 2018 When the user closes their last login session, the systemd --user instance is immediately asked to shut down. If you want to always run your systemd --user instance, so you can run user services and timer units and stuff permanently, and immediately on boot, there is a setting for that: loginctl enable-linger. There's some possibility for different settings than linger. See the PR #4434, for a proposed setting which doesn't start on boot, but lets systemd --user instances pile up and only get stopped when the entire system is shut down.</p>\n</details>\n<details><summary>Updated plan</summary>\n<div class=\"codehilite\"><span class=\"filename\">diff</span><pre><span></span><code>@@ -28,5 +28,15 @@\n - Magic SysRq key is Alt+SysRq (usually Print Screen key)\n - REISUB sequence: R-E-I-S-U-B for safe reboot\n - Works at kernel level, should work even when TTY switching fails\n-- Need to check if SysRq is enabled on CachyOS\n+- CachyOS has specific instructions for enabling SysRq: `echo 'kernel.sysrq=1' | sudo tee /etc/sysctl.d/99-reisub.conf`\n+- Can be enabled instantly with `sudo sysctl kernel.sysrq=1`\n - Some systems need specific key combinations (like Fn+Home on Dell laptops)\n+\n+## Key Recovery Methods Found\n+1. SysRq magic keys (if enabled)\n+2. Force kill user systemd session from another session\n+3. systemctl --user daemon-reexec (but this is timing out for user)\n+4. Hard reset as last resort\n+\n+## Response Plan\n+Focus on SysRq keys as primary solution since TTY switching fails and systemctl commands timeout\n</code></pre></div>\n</details><p>This is a severe system hang that's unfortunately common with KDE Plasma on CachyOS <sup class=\"trigger\"><a href=\"https://discuss.cachyos.org/t/cachyos-freezes-randomly/21266#:~:text=Since%20a%20few,it%20on%20again.\">2</a><span class=\"tooltip top center citation\"><a href=\"https://discuss.cachyos.org/t/cachyos-freezes-randomly/21266#:~:text=Since%20a%20few,it%20on%20again.\"><span class=\"source\"><img alt=\"\" src=\"https://p.kagi.com/proxy/favicons?c=lQ30-cxV_E2Vdyqb6hrbuYgId7qu7hecjO7o1T7aqQDFc7XpcLttL1Ryala-GNHJTWAiY4vZFYXCB6NPg-_62JEE_eCk_a2H2i_BUCo1gT4zkxxFLPTizduL3HQ9q6e0\"> discuss.cachyos.org</span><b>2. CachyOS freezes randomly - Issues & Assistance - CachyOS Forum</b></a><span class=\"passage\">Since a few months i am running cachyOS on my HDPC, but a few weeks ago it started randly freeze up the entire system and i can’t normal boot the system anymore. It freezes so hard, that switching to another TTY does not work and no input is recognized anymore. Also the display does not update anymore. At this point, the HDD led is blinking in a 1-2 second interval and nothing happens anymore. The only thing i can do is to hard power of the system, wait a few secs and then power it on again.</span></span></sup><sup class=\"trigger\"><a href=\"https://discuss.cachyos.org/t/random-partial-system-freezes-kde-plasma/19920#:~:text=Steam%27s%20patching%20operation,access%20tty%20or\">7</a><span class=\"tooltip top center citation\"><a href=\"https://discuss.cachyos.org/t/random-partial-system-freezes-kde-plasma/19920#:~:text=Steam%27s%20patching%20operation,access%20tty%20or\"><span class=\"source\"><img alt=\"\" src=\"https://p.kagi.com/proxy/favicons?c=lQ30-cxV_E2Vdyqb6hrbuYgId7qu7hecjO7o1T7aqQDFc7XpcLttL1Ryala-GNHJTWAiY4vZFYXCB6NPg-_62JEE_eCk_a2H2i_BUCo1gT4zkxxFLPTizduL3HQ9q6e0\"> discuss.cachyos.org</span><b>7. Random partial system freezes kde plasma - CachyOS Forum</b></a><span class=\"passage\">Steam's patching operation would freeze the system almost immediately. When the system was in its frozen state I could not access tty or ...</span></span></sup>. Since TTY switching fails and systemctl commands timeout, you're dealing with a deeper system freeze than just a dbus session issue. Here are your recovery options:</p>\n<h2>1. Try SysRq Magic Keys (Most Likely to Work)</h2>\n<p>The <strong>Magic SysRq key</strong> works at the kernel level and should function even when TTY switching fails <sup class=\"trigger\"><a href=\"https://medium.com/@williamwsm/magic-sysrq-key-to-the-rescue-d3154a095a44#:~:text=The%20default%20key,following%20key%20combination\">4</a><span class=\"tooltip top center citation\"><a href=\"https://medium.com/@williamwsm/magic-sysrq-key-to-the-rescue-d3154a095a44#:~:text=The%20default%20key,following%20key%20combination\"><span class=\"source\"><img alt=\"\" src=\"https://p.kagi.com/proxy/favicons?c=lQ30-cxV_E2Vdyqb6hrbuYgId7qu7hecjO7o1T7aqQDFc7XpcLttL1Ryala-GNHJBGQH74Q81gRS6YwzivL6uub9-AAfvy0RHe-vtiCjq5U%3D\"> medium.com</span><b>4. Magic SysRq Key To The Rescue! The Ultimate Guide. - Medium</b></a><span class=\"passage\">The default key combination for the Magic SysRq Key is Alt+SysRq, and don’t be worried if you can’t locate this key: it is generally the same as your Print Screen key, even if it’s not written SysRq there. The easiest way to check if the Magic SysRq Key is working, without triggering any function, is by checking the system log file while pressing the following key combination</span></span></sup><sup class=\"trigger\"><a href=\"https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/admin-guide/sysrq.html#:~:text=Linux%20Magic%20System,the%20kernel.%20When\">5</a><span class=\"tooltip top center citation\"><a href=\"https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/admin-guide/sysrq.html#:~:text=Linux%20Magic%20System,the%20kernel.%20When\"><span class=\"source\"><img alt=\"\" src=\"https://p.kagi.com/proxy/favicons?c=lQ30-cxV_E2Vdyqb6hrbuYgId7qu7hecjO7o1T7aqQDFc7XpcLttL1Ryala-GNHJnYpdWYin-ORu8ksfe4tYXcVjTcqE90xvXreTQmTnrrA%3D\"> www.kernel.org</span><b>5. Linux Magic System Request Key Hacks - The Linux Kernel Archives</b></a><span class=\"passage\">Linux Magic System Request Key Hacks ¶ Documentation for sysrq.c What is the magic SysRq key? ¶ It is a ‘magical’ key combo you can hit which the kernel will respond to regardless of whatever else it is doing, unless it is completely locked up. How do I enable the magic SysRq key? ¶ You need to say “yes” to ‘Magic SysRq key (CONFIG_MAGIC_SYSRQ)’ when configuring the kernel. When ...</span></span></sup>.</p>\n<p><strong>First, check if SysRq is enabled:</strong></p>\n<ul>\n<li>If you set this up before, it should work</li>\n<li>CachyOS users can enable it with: <code>echo 'kernel.sysrq=1' | sudo tee /etc/sysctl.d/99-reisub.conf</code> <sup class=\"trigger\"><a href=\"https://discuss.cachyos.org/t/tip-enable-magic-sysrq-key-reisub/11028#:~:text=This%20is%20called,sudo%20tee%20/etc/sysctl.d/99-reisub.conf.\">1</a><span class=\"tooltip top center citation\"><a href=\"https://discuss.cachyos.org/t/tip-enable-magic-sysrq-key-reisub/11028#:~:text=This%20is%20called,sudo%20tee%20/etc/sysctl.d/99-reisub.conf.\"><span class=\"source\"><img alt=\"\" src=\"https://p.kagi.com/proxy/favicons?c=lQ30-cxV_E2Vdyqb6hrbuYgId7qu7hecjO7o1T7aqQDFc7XpcLttL1Ryala-GNHJTWAiY4vZFYXCB6NPg-_62JEE_eCk_a2H2i_BUCo1gT4zkxxFLPTizduL3HQ9q6e0\"> discuss.cachyos.org</span><b>1. [Tip] Enable Magic SysRq Key (REISUB) - CachyOS Forum</b></a><span class=\"passage\">This is called the “Magic SysRq Key”, because these commands are issued by pressing the SysRq key on the keyboard (if you can’t find it, typically, it shares the same physical key as the Print Screen key, but on some laptops it can be elsewhere).This is how you enable it: Run this command in the terminal: echo 'kernel.sysrq=1' | sudo tee /etc/sysctl.d/99-reisub.conf.</span></span></sup></li>\n</ul>\n<p><strong>To use SysRq for safe recovery:</strong></p>\n<ol>\n<li><strong>Alt + SysRq + R</strong> - Switch keyboard from raw mode to XLATE mode</li>\n<li><strong>Alt + SysRq + E</strong> - Send SIGTERM to all processes except init</li>\n<li><strong>Alt + SysRq + I</strong> - Send SIGKILL to all processes except init</li>\n<li><strong>Alt + SysRq + S</strong> - Sync all mounted filesystems</li>\n<li><strong>Alt + SysRq + U</strong> - Remount all filesystems read-only</li>\n<li><strong>Alt + SysRq + B</strong> - Reboot the system</li>\n</ol>\n<p><strong>Key points:</strong></p>\n<ul>\n<li>SysRq is usually the <strong>Print Screen</strong> key <sup class=\"trigger\"><a href=\"https://medium.com/@williamwsm/magic-sysrq-key-to-the-rescue-d3154a095a44#:~:text=The%20default%20key,following%20key%20combination\">4</a><span class=\"tooltip top center citation\"><a href=\"https://medium.com/@williamwsm/magic-sysrq-key-to-the-rescue-d3154a095a44#:~:text=The%20default%20key,following%20key%20combination\"><span class=\"source\"><img alt=\"\" src=\"https://p.kagi.com/proxy/favicons?c=lQ30-cxV_E2Vdyqb6hrbuYgId7qu7hecjO7o1T7aqQDFc7XpcLttL1Ryala-GNHJBGQH74Q81gRS6YwzivL6uub9-AAfvy0RHe-vtiCjq5U%3D\"> medium.com</span><b>4. Magic SysRq Key To The Rescue! The Ultimate Guide. - Medium</b></a><span class=\"passage\">The default key combination for the Magic SysRq Key is Alt+SysRq, and don’t be worried if you can’t locate this key: it is generally the same as your Print Screen key, even if it’s not written SysRq there. The easiest way to check if the Magic SysRq Key is working, without triggering any function, is by checking the system log file while pressing the following key combination</span></span></sup></li>\n<li>Hold <strong>Alt</strong> while pressing <strong>Print Screen + each letter</strong> in sequence</li>\n<li>Wait a few seconds between each step</li>\n<li>The mnemonic is <strong>REISUB</strong> (\"Raising Elephants Is So Utterly Boring\")</li>\n</ul>\n<h2>2. Alternative SysRq Commands (If REISUB Doesn't Work)</h2>\n<p>If the full REISUB sequence hangs at \"B\" <sup class=\"trigger\"><a href=\"https://askubuntu.com/questions/31126/altsysrqreisub-hangs-at-resetting-without-actually-resetting-restarting#:~:text=I%27m%20trying%20Alt,restart%20the%20system%3F\">6</a><span class=\"tooltip top center citation\"><a href=\"https://askubuntu.com/questions/31126/altsysrqreisub-hangs-at-resetting-without-actually-resetting-restarting#:~:text=I%27m%20trying%20Alt,restart%20the%20system%3F\"><span class=\"source\"><img alt=\"\" src=\"https://p.kagi.com/proxy/favicons?c=lQ30-cxV_E2Vdyqb6hrbuYgId7qu7hecjO7o1T7aqQDFc7XpcLttL1Ryala-GNHJV80hRZ87iHUVTecVLy7LJuM2FkM2zBdcZrSS4jYKVMo%3D\"> askubuntu.com</span><b>6. kernel - ALT+SysRq+REISUB hangs at \"resetting...\" - Ask Ubuntu</b></a><span class=\"passage\">I'm trying Alt + SysRq + REISUB to see how it would be used to restart my system safely in case of emergency. However, I find that Alt + SysRq + REISUB hangs at \"resetting\" (without actually resetting/restarting) in Maverick. All other SysRq combinations appear to work correctly (i.e. Alt + SysRq + REISU). cat /proc/sys/kernel/sysrq returns 0. But I'm not sure it's relevant because Alt + SysRq certainly works. What can I do to have \"B\" actually restart the system?</span></span></sup>:</p>\n<ul>\n<li><strong>Alt + SysRq + F</strong> - Call oom_kill to kill memory hogs</li>\n<li><strong>Alt + SysRq + K</strong> - Kill all processes on current virtual console</li>\n</ul>\n<h2>3. If SysRq Isn't Enabled</h2>\n<p>Unfortunately, if SysRq wasn't enabled beforehand, you can't enable it during the freeze. You'd need to:</p>\n<ul>\n<li>Hard power off (hold power button)</li>\n<li>Boot up and enable SysRq for future incidents: <code>sudo sysctl kernel.sysrq=1</code> <sup class=\"trigger\"><a href=\"https://www.reddit.com/r/archlinux/comments/glo3b3/how_do_i_enable_the_sysrq_keys/#:~:text=If%20you%20run,TTY%2C%20log%20in\">3</a><span class=\"tooltip top center citation\"><a href=\"https://www.reddit.com/r/archlinux/comments/glo3b3/how_do_i_enable_the_sysrq_keys/#:~:text=If%20you%20run,TTY%2C%20log%20in\"><span class=\"source\"><img alt=\"\" src=\"https://p.kagi.com/proxy/favicons?c=lQ30-cxV_E2Vdyqb6hrbuYgId7qu7hecjO7o1T7aqQDFc7XpcLttL1Ryala-GNHJ-2ZqqXgwT-m6vcvZX_2cUpJsqUJgY5hpLDppjAB8i98%3D\"> www.reddit.com</span><b>3. How do I enable the SysRq keys? : r/archlinux - Reddit</b></a><span class=\"passage\">If you run sudo sysctl kernel.sysrq=1 , it should get enabled instantly. After that, press CTRL+ALT+F2 to go to second TTY, log in ...</span></span></sup></li>\n</ul>\n<h2>4. Why This Happens</h2>\n<p>This type of freeze where even TTY switching fails indicates:</p>\n<ul>\n<li>Kernel-level issues with the graphics stack</li>\n<li>Systemd user session corruption that cascades</li>\n<li>Memory pressure causing system-wide hangs</li>\n<li>KDE Plasma specific issues on CachyOS <sup class=\"trigger\"><a href=\"https://discuss.cachyos.org/t/cachyos-freezes-randomly/21266#:~:text=Since%20a%20few,it%20on%20again.\">2</a><span class=\"tooltip top center citation\"><a href=\"https://discuss.cachyos.org/t/cachyos-freezes-randomly/21266#:~:text=Since%20a%20few,it%20on%20again.\"><span class=\"source\"><img alt=\"\" src=\"https://p.kagi.com/proxy/favicons?c=lQ30-cxV_E2Vdyqb6hrbuYgId7qu7hecjO7o1T7aqQDFc7XpcLttL1Ryala-GNHJTWAiY4vZFYXCB6NPg-_62JEE_eCk_a2H2i_BUCo1gT4zkxxFLPTizduL3HQ9q6e0\"> discuss.cachyos.org</span><b>2. CachyOS freezes randomly - Issues & Assistance - CachyOS Forum</b></a><span class=\"passage\">Since a few months i am running cachyOS on my HDPC, but a few weeks ago it started randly freeze up the entire system and i can’t normal boot the system anymore. It freezes so hard, that switching to another TTY does not work and no input is recognized anymore. Also the display does not update anymore. At this point, the HDD led is blinking in a 1-2 second interval and nothing happens anymore. The only thing i can do is to hard power of the system, wait a few secs and then power it on again.</span></span></sup></li>\n</ul>\n<h2>Prevention for Future</h2>\n<p>After recovery:</p>\n<ol>\n<li><strong>Enable SysRq permanently:</strong></li>\n</ol>\n<div class=\"codehilite\"><span class=\"filename\">Bash</span><pre><span></span><code><span class=\"nf\">echo</span> <span class=\"s\">'kernel.sysrq=1'</span> <span class=\"o\">|</span> <span class=\"nf\">sudo</span> tee /etc/sysctl.d/99-reisub.conf\n</code></pre></div>\n<ol start=\"2\">\n<li><strong>Enable user lingering</strong> to prevent session corruption:</li>\n</ol>\n<div class=\"codehilite\"><span class=\"filename\">Bash</span><pre><span></span><code><span class=\"nf\">sudo</span> loginctl enable-linger <span class=\"o\">$</span>USER\n</code></pre></div>\n<ol start=\"3\">\n<li><strong>Monitor system resources</strong> - these freezes often correlate with memory pressure</li>\n</ol>\n<p>The SysRq keys are your best bet here since they bypass the normal system layers that are currently hung. If SysRq doesn't work, you'll unfortunately need to hard reset, but at least you'll have it enabled for next time.</p>","md":"This is a severe system hang that's unfortunately common with KDE Plasma on CachyOS [^2][^7]. Since TTY switching fails and systemctl commands timeout, you're dealing with a deeper system freeze than just a dbus session issue. Here are your recovery options:\n\n## 1. Try SysRq Magic Keys (Most Likely to Work)\n\nThe **Magic SysRq key** works at the kernel level and should function even when TTY switching fails [^4][^5]. \n\n**First, check if SysRq is enabled:**\n- If you set this up before, it should work\n- CachyOS users can enable it with: `echo 'kernel.sysrq=1' | sudo tee /etc/sysctl.d/99-reisub.conf` [^1]\n\n**To use SysRq for safe recovery:**\n1. **Alt + SysRq + R** - Switch keyboard from raw mode to XLATE mode\n2. **Alt + SysRq + E** - Send SIGTERM to all processes except init\n3. **Alt + SysRq + I** - Send SIGKILL to all processes except init \n4. **Alt + SysRq + S** - Sync all mounted filesystems\n5. **Alt + SysRq + U** - Remount all filesystems read-only\n6. **Alt + SysRq + B** - Reboot the system\n\n**Key points:**\n- SysRq is usually the **Print Screen** key [^4]\n- Hold **Alt** while pressing **Print Screen + each letter** in sequence\n- Wait a few seconds between each step\n- The mnemonic is **REISUB** (\"Raising Elephants Is So Utterly Boring\")\n\n## 2. Alternative SysRq Commands (If REISUB Doesn't Work)\n\nIf the full REISUB sequence hangs at \"B\" [^6]:\n- **Alt + SysRq + F** - Call oom_kill to kill memory hogs\n- **Alt + SysRq + K** - Kill all processes on current virtual console\n\n## 3. If SysRq Isn't Enabled\n\nUnfortunately, if SysRq wasn't enabled beforehand, you can't enable it during the freeze. You'd need to:\n- Hard power off (hold power button)\n- Boot up and enable SysRq for future incidents: `sudo sysctl kernel.sysrq=1` [^3]\n\n## 4. Why This Happens\n\nThis type of freeze where even TTY switching fails indicates:\n- Kernel-level issues with the graphics stack\n- Systemd user session corruption that cascades\n- Memory pressure causing system-wide hangs\n- KDE Plasma specific issues on CachyOS [^2]\n\n## Prevention for Future\n\nAfter recovery:\n1. **Enable SysRq permanently:**\n ```bash\n echo 'kernel.sysrq=1' | sudo tee /etc/sysctl.d/99-reisub.conf\n ```\n\n2. **Enable user lingering** to prevent session corruption:\n ```bash\n sudo loginctl enable-linger $USER\n ```\n\n3. **Monitor system resources** - these freezes often correlate with memory pressure\n\nThe SysRq keys are your best bet here since they bypass the normal system layers that are currently hung. 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This time, it's responsive, I can interact with windows what I left open before I locked the computer. This happened after I left the computer locked over night and I came back to it in the morning. Before after moving the mouse to awake the screens the system would freeze. This time it responds, but I can't close windows and I can't open new ones. How can I get more info about this issue? Also why are you suggesting to enable user lingering? 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Diagnostic commands that might still work in this state\n+2. Why user lingering is relevant to session management issues\n+3. KDE/Plasma specific lock screen wake issues\n+4. What logs to check for this type of partial freeze\n+\n+## Key differences from complete freeze\n+- Windows still interactive\n+- Mouse/keyboard work within existing windows\n+- No new processes can start\n+- Session management broken\n</code></pre></div>\n</details>\n<details><summary>Searched with Kagi<p></p>\n<ul>\n<li>KDE plasma lock screen wake partial freeze can't open new windows</li>\n<li>systemd user session broken after screen lock diagnostic commands</li>\n<li>loginctl enable-linger purpose session management</li></ul></summary><br>\nSources (15):<br>\n<strong>Why the awful desktop and logout / lock screen freeze has not been ...</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/11fo7na/why_the_awful_desktop_and_logout_lock_screen/\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/11fo7na/why_the_awful_desktop_and_logout_lock_screen/</a><br>\nMar 02, 2023 After trying KDE Plasma 26 Beta with my favorite window decoration (Klassy) and seeing that it managed to freeze the whole UI and nothing was responding anymore, except the CTRL + ALT + F2, I decided to stop using Klassy for a while until the issue will be resolved.\n\n<p><strong>Kde plasma freezes the windows when minimizing them when using ... - Reddit</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/1cuexma/kde_plasma_freezes_the_windows_when_minimizing/\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/1cuexma/kde_plasma_freezes_the_windows_when_minimizing/</a><br>\n So what happens is windows can't be minimized visually, the windows \"freeze\" stuck on the screen, until one open the app again which is already open in the background, and shuts it of, or scroll from desktop 1 to 2 and back. Happened on mx linux kde, and now also on kde through pop os. With grayscale through desktop effects.</p>\n<p><strong>Kde plasma freezes unexpectedly : r/kde - Reddit</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/11gwc6s/kde_plasma_freezes_unexpectedly/\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/11gwc6s/kde_plasma_freezes_unexpectedly/</a><br>\n KDE is an international commmunity creating free and open source software. Visit our main page to know more: https://kde.org ----- This is not a technical support forum.</p>\n<p><strong>Some issues with screen lock/sleep and freezing desktop</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://discuss.kde.org/t/some-issues-with-screen-lock-sleep-and-freezing-desktop/31210\" target=\"_blank\">https://discuss.kde.org/t/some-issues-with-screen-lock-sleep-and-freezing-desktop/31210</a><br>\nMar 08, 2025 I can also alt-tab to windows on the main monitor and then hot-key move it to the other one. Clicking on Power Management in settings locks up the Settings window only (but, not if the freezing was done forcefully by manipulating Night Light).Turning off screen locking and Night Light has completely avoided these issues for the last two nights. I still allow Power Management to turn my monitors off without affect. I think that the problem exists between Night Light and screen locking, but I’m also still very new to Linux and I’m not sure where to poke at things.</p>\n<p><strong>KDE Plasma Lock Screen completely frozen, unable to switch to TTY ...</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://discuss.kde.org/t/kde-plasma-lock-screen-completely-frozen-unable-to-switch-to-tty-critical/41954\" target=\"_blank\">https://discuss.kde.org/t/kde-plasma-lock-screen-completely-frozen-unable-to-switch-to-tty-critical/41954</a><br>\nNov 24, 2025 Hello everyone, I am experiencing a critical system freeze related to the KDE Plasma lock screen after closing the laptop lid. Action: I put my laptop to sleep by closing the lid while listening to a YouTube stream. Observation: When I opened the lid this morning (around 7:00 AM), the lock screen appeared, but the displayed time was stuck at a much earlier time (around 1:00 AM). Result: The ...</p>\n<p><strong>Systemd service keeps stopping after screen lock due to inactivity</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxquestions/comments/1h8zreq/systemd_service_keeps_stopping_after_screen_lock/\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxquestions/comments/1h8zreq/systemd_service_keeps_stopping_after_screen_lock/</a><br>\nDec 07, 2024 Service starts by itself when booting but stops when screen lock due to inactivity. How do I resolve this by keeping this service always running?</p>\n<p><strong>Diagnosing Boot Problems - systemd</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://systemd.io/DEBUGGING/\" target=\"_blank\">https://systemd.io/DEBUGGING/</a><br>\n Diagnosing Boot Problems If your machine gets stuck during boot, first check if the hang happens before or after control passes to systemd. Try to boot without rhgb and quiet on the kernel command line. If you see some messages like these: Welcome to Fedora VERSION (codename)!” Starting name … [ OK ] Started name. then systemd is running. (See an actual screenshot.) Debugging always gets ...</p>\n<p>**<a href=\"https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=302872\" target=\"_blank\">https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=302872</a>c.php?id=302872](https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=302872)<br>\nJan 26, 2025 I have an issue regarding the user dbus-broker service. It doesn't start no matter what I do. After searching for more than a week now I give in and reach out to you for a little help. The system level dbus seemingly has no problem and runs ok. My system is running flawlessly except for the sound system.</p>\n<p><strong>Screen lock using systemd-logind - Arch Linux Forums</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=168205\" target=\"_blank\">https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=168205</a><br>\nAug 13, 2013 Screen lock using systemd-logind. I noticed that in loginctl there is an option to unlock/lock sessions, and also trigger a lock on ACPI events.</p>\n<p><strong>Framework 13: watchdog kills systemd-logind after sleep / Laptop Issues ...</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=2289569\" target=\"_blank\">https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=2289569</a><br>\n Problem: After closing the lid (suspend) and reopening it, the screen stays black. I end up at the SDDM greeter, and logging in gives a new session but the old one is dead.</p>\n<p><strong>Enabling a user's processes to continue after the user disconnects ...</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://neilzone.co.uk/2026/01/enabling-a-users-processes-to-continue-after-the-user-disconnects-their-ssh-session-using-loginctl-enable-linger/\" target=\"_blank\">https://neilzone.co.uk/2026/01/enabling-a-users-processes-to-continue-after-the-user-disconnects-their-ssh-session-using-loginctl-enable-linger/</a><br>\nJan 12, 2026 An annoyance was that, when I disconnected from ssh, podman stopped running too. On an interim basis, I fudged it by opening a new tmux session, and running podman within that. The “correct” solution, as far as I can tell, is to use loginctl enable-linger for that user: loginctl enable-linger username. Having done this, I can now disconnect from ssh, and the podman containers continue to run.</p>\n<p><strong>systemd - Config file for enable-linger / disable-linger? - Unix ...</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/609928/config-file-for-enable-linger-disable-linger\" target=\"_blank\">https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/609928/config-file-for-enable-linger-disable-linger</a><br>\nSep 20, 2020 The equivalent of loginctl enable-linger <user> in /etc/systemd/logind.conf would be KillExcludeUsers. from logind.conf(5): These settings take space-separated lists of usernames that override the KillUserProcesses= setting. A user name may be added to KillExcludeUsers= to exclude the processes in the session scopes of that user from being killed even if KillUserProcesses=yes is set.</p>\n<p><strong>How to apply lingering immediately - Unix & Linux Stack Exchange</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/462845/how-to-apply-lingering-immediately\" target=\"_blank\">https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/462845/how-to-apply-lingering-immediately</a><br>\nAug 15, 2018 You're confusing \"users\" with \"sessions\" here. Using loginctl enable-linger myuser will make the user manager for user myuser start at boot (and start immediately if it's not yet started), but it won't really start any sessions for the user (those only happen when the user logs in.) If you use the loginctl list-users command you'll see the effects of it.</p>\n<p><strong>systemd - Has “loginctl enable-linger user” made the UNIX classic...</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/778186/has-loginctl-enable-linger-user-made-the-unix-classic-nohup-superfluous-or\" target=\"_blank\">https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/778186/has-loginctl-enable-linger-user-made-the-unix-classic-nohup-superfluous-or</a><br>\nJun 12, 2024 I have read about loginctl enable-linger user and /etc/systemd/logind.conf. (KillExcludeUsers=user1 user2 user3). Oracle Linux: Configure Systemd to Enable User Processes to Continue to Run After Logout. This tutorial shows you how to set up the systemd service manager on an Oracle Linux 8 system to ensure that services and processes that are started by a user continue after the user's session has ended.</p>\n<p><strong>loginctl enable-linger/disable-linger ... but reading linger-status?</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://serverfault.com/questions/846441/loginctl-enable-linger-disable-linger-but-reading-linger-status\" target=\"_blank\">https://serverfault.com/questions/846441/loginctl-enable-linger-disable-linger-but-reading-linger-status</a><br>\nApr 25, 2017 loginctl enable-linger $USER loginctl disable-linger $USER. do the equivalent of.Unfortunately, this doesn't work on systemd 248.3-1ubuntu8.6 on my Ubuntu 21.10 install. loginctl show-user doesn't show me any property that has the word \"linger\" in it. And loginctl user-status shows me the linger status at the top, but does not support --property= for filtering.</p>\n</details>\n<details><summary>Updated plan</summary>\n<div class=\"codehilite\"><span class=\"filename\">diff</span><pre><span></span><code>@@ -21,3 +21,9 @@\n - Mouse/keyboard work within existing windows\n - No new processes can start\n - Session management broken\n+\n+## Initial findings\n+- KDE lock screen issues after sleep/wake are common\n+- User lingering keeps user systemd manager running even when not logged in - prevents session cleanup issues\n+- Need to find diagnostic commands that work when systemctl --user fails\n+- This looks like a systemd user session corruption after wake from lock\n</code></pre></div>\n</details>\n<details><summary>Searched with Kagi<p></p>\n<ul>\n<li>diagnostic commands when systemctl user fails linux</li>\n<li>check systemd user session status without systemctl</li>\n<li>dbus session bus address check commands</li></ul></summary><br>\nSources (15):<br>\n<strong>How to debug a failed systemctl service (code=exited, status=217 ...</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://stackoverflow.com/questions/48176240/how-to-debug-a-failed-systemctl-service-code-exited-status-217-user\" target=\"_blank\">https://stackoverflow.com/questions/48176240/how-to-debug-a-failed-systemctl-service-code-exited-status-217-user</a><br>\nJan 09, 2018 There's two parts to the question. One is how to diagnose a 217/USER, the other is how to fix it. I'll just focus on the former. For the ...\n\n<p><strong>Systemd: Zero to Hero – Part 4: Diagnosing Failures and Debugging Like ...</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://blog.alphabravo.io/systemd-zero-to-hero-part-4-diagnosing-failures-and-debugging-like-a-pro/\" target=\"_blank\">https://blog.alphabravo.io/systemd-zero-to-hero-part-4-diagnosing-failures-and-debugging-like-a-pro/</a><br>\n The journey from systemd novice to expert requires practice, but with these diagnostic tools in your arsenal, you're well-equipped to handle whatever systemd throws at you. Whether it's a simple service startup failure or a complex boot-time dependency issue, you now have the knowledge and techniques to debug like a pro.</p>\n<p><strong>Systemd: Stop Guessing, Start Controlling | IT Support Group</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://thisisanitsupportgroup.com/blog/systemd-tutorial-linux-service-management-guide-2026/\" target=\"_blank\">https://thisisanitsupportgroup.com/blog/systemd-tutorial-linux-service-management-guide-2026/</a><br>\nFeb 04, 2026 See when the timer last ran systemctl list-timers backup.timer. The list-timers output shows the last trigger time, next scheduled trigger, and the associated service unit. Great for verifying your schedules are correct. Troubleshooting Patterns. When services fail, follow this systematic approach. The Diagnostic Sequence. Check status - Get the quick overview. sudo systemctl status problematic-service.</p>\n<p><strong>How to Fix 'Failed to Start Service' systemd Errors - OneUptime</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://oneuptime.com/blog/post/2026-01-24-systemd-failed-to-start-service/view\" target=\"_blank\">https://oneuptime.com/blog/post/2026-01-24-systemd-failed-to-start-service/view</a><br>\nJan 24, 2026 Initial Diagnosis Commands ; # Check service status - most important first step sudo systemctl status nginx.service # View full service status ...</p>\n<p><strong>Troubleshooting a failed systemd unit (with examples) - Linux Audit</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://linux-audit.com/systemd/troubleshooting-a-failed-systemd-unit/\" target=\"_blank\">https://linux-audit.com/systemd/troubleshooting-a-failed-systemd-unit/</a><br>\n Systemd units may be shown in a failed state if something goes wrong. Learn how to troubleshoot these failed units, possible causes, and how to resolve them.</p>\n<p><strong>Run services as user without X (systemctl)</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/629048/run-services-as-user-without-x-systemctl\" target=\"_blank\">https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/629048/run-services-as-user-without-x-systemctl</a><br>\nJan 13, 2021 What you probably want is dbus-monitor --system.</p>\n<p>**How to use Systemd user services without Desktop session<a href=\"https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/711889/how-to-use-systemd-user-services-without-desktop-sessionno-d-bus\" target=\"_blank\">https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/711889/how-to-use-systemd-user-services-without-desktop-sessionno-d-bus</a>sionno-d-bus)<br>\n <math display=\"inline\"><mi>s</mi><mi>y</mi><mi>s</mi><mi>t</mi><mi>e</mi><mi>m</mi><mi>c</mi><mi>t</mi><mi>l</mi><mo>−</mo><mi>−</mi><mi>u</mi><mi>s</mi><mi>e</mi><mi>r</mi><mi>d</mi><mi>a</mi><mi>e</mi><mi>m</mi><mi>o</mi><mi>n</mi><mo>−</mo><mi>r</mi><mi>e</mi><mi>l</mi><mi>o</mi><mi>a</mi><mi>d</mi><mi>F</mi><mi>a</mi><mi>i</mi><mi>l</mi><mi>e</mi><mi>d</mi><mi>t</mi><mi>o</mi><mi>g</mi><mi>e</mi><mi>t</mi><mi>D</mi><mo>−</mo><mi>B</mi><mi>u</mi><mi>s</mi><mi>c</mi><mi>o</mi><mi>n</mi><mi>n</mi><mi>e</mi><mi>c</mi><mi>t</mi><mi>i</mi><mi>o</mi><mi>n</mi><mo>:</mo><mi>N</mi><mi>o</mi><mi>s</mi><mi>u</mi><mi>c</mi><mi>h</mi><mi>f</mi><mi>i</mi><mi>l</mi><mi>e</mi><mi>o</mi><mi>r</mi><mi>d</mi><mi>i</mi><mi>r</mi><mi>e</mi><mi>c</mi><mi>t</mi><mi>o</mi><mi>r</mi><mi>y</mi><mi>I</mi><mi>u</mi><mi>n</mi><mi>d</mi><mi>e</mi><mi>r</mi><mi>s</mi><mi>t</mi><mi>a</mi><mi>n</mi><mi>d</mi><mi>D</mi><mo>−</mo><mi>B</mi><mi>u</mi><mi>s</mi><mi>w</mi><mi>o</mi><mi>n</mi><mi>′</mi><mi>t</mi><mi>r</mi><mi>u</mi><mi>n</mi><mi>w</mi><mi>i</mi><mi>t</mi><mi>h</mi><mi>o</mi><mi>u</mi><mi>t</mi><mi>D</mi><mi>e</mi><mi>s</mi><mi>k</mi><mi>t</mi><mi>o</mi><mi>p</mi><mi>s</mi><mi>e</mi><mi>s</mi><mi>s</mi><mi>i</mi><mi>o</mi><mi>n</mi><mo>,</mo><mi>b</mi><mi>u</mi><mi>t</mi><mi>t</mi><mi>h</mi><mi>e</mi><mi>r</mi><mi>e</mi><mi>i</mi><mi>s</mi><mi>n</mi><mi>o</mi><mi>D</mi><mi>e</mi><mi>s</mi><mi>k</mi><mi>t</mi><mi>o</mi><mi>p</mi><mi>s</mi><mi>e</mi><mi>s</mi><mi>s</mi><mi>i</mi><mi>o</mi><mi>n</mi><mo>,</mo><mi>i</mi><mi>t</mi><mi>′</mi><mi>s</mi><mi>o</mi><mi>n</mi><mi>e</mi><mi>o</mi><mi>f</mi><mi>t</mi><mi>h</mi><mi>e</mi><mi>V</mi><mi>M</mi><mi>s</mi><mi>p</mi><mi>r</mi><mi>o</mi><mi>v</mi><mi>i</mi><mi>d</mi><mi>e</mi><mi>d</mi><mi>b</mi><mi>y</mi><mi>t</mi><mi>h</mi><mi>e</mi><mi>C</mi><mi>o</mi><mi>m</mi><mi>p</mi><mi>a</mi><mi>n</mi><mi>y</mi><mo>.</mo><mi>W</mi><mi>e</mi><mi>d</mi><mi>o</mi><mi>n</mi><mi>′</mi><mi>t</mi><mi>e</mi><mi>n</mi><mi>a</mi><mi>b</mi><mi>l</mi><mi>e</mi><mi>D</mi><mi>e</mi><mi>s</mi><mi>k</mi><mi>t</mi><mi>o</mi><mi>p</mi><mi>s</mi><mi>e</mi><mi>s</mi><mi>s</mi><mi>i</mi><mi>o</mi><mi>n</mi><mi>s</mi><mi>f</mi><mi>o</mi><mi>r</mi><mi>t</mi><mi>h</mi><mi>e</mi><mi>L</mi><mi>i</mi><mi>n</mi><mi>u</mi><mi>x</mi><mi>s</mi><mi>e</mi><mi>r</mi><mi>v</mi><mi>e</mi><mi>r</mi><mi>s</mi><mo>.</mo></math> ps -ef | grep systemd | grep -v grep</p>\n<p><strong>systemd - How to see what's in a session - Unix & Linux Stack...</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/389613/how-to-see-whats-in-a-session\" target=\"_blank\">https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/389613/how-to-see-whats-in-a-session</a><br>\nAug 31, 2017 systemctl status session-[session id].scope. This will tell you what processes are running under that login session. That can be any kind of session, whether it be graphical, ssh, text based, etc.How do I get Debian to use systemd-logind for user session control? 10. How to enable systemd user sessions for remote logins on CentOS 7?</p>\n<p><strong>How to check status for user level systemd unit - Unix & Linux Stack...</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/508121/how-to-check-status-for-user-level-systemd-unit\" target=\"_blank\">https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/508121/how-to-check-status-for-user-level-systemd-unit</a><br>\nMar 23, 2019</p>\n<p><strong>systemd - How to apply lingering immediately - Unix & Linux Stack Exchange</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/462845/how-to-apply-lingering-immediately\" target=\"_blank\">https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/462845/how-to-apply-lingering-immediately</a><br>\n As per this answer, I enabled lingering for a user on a headless system. However in loginctl list-sessions, the user is not listed yet. If I login with this user by ssh it is shown, once I disconnect again it is missing. How can I generate the lingering session without restarting the entire system? I have unsuccessfully tried to systemctl restart systemd-logind. Edit: My goal is to run a timer ...</p>\n<p><strong>Determine DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS from outside the X ...</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/167023/determine-dbus-session-bus-address-from-outside-the-x-session\" target=\"_blank\">https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/167023/determine-dbus-session-bus-address-from-outside-the-x-session</a><br>\nNov 09, 2014 Explore Stack Internal. Determine DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS from outside the X session.I've got mate-screensaver installed on a machine running Linux Mint 16. On that machine, I can open up a terminal and query the state of the screensaver: dan@box1 ~ $ echo $DISPLAY :0.0 dan@box1 ~ $ mate-screensaver-command -q The screensaver is inactive The screensaver is not inhibited. This all works fine and makes sense.</p>\n<p><strong>d bus - A way to list all running dbus session buses? - Unix & Linux ...</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/199921/a-way-to-list-all-running-dbus-session-buses\" target=\"_blank\">https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/199921/a-way-to-list-all-running-dbus-session-buses</a><br>\n Technically there isn't a reliable/official way to know whether a socket address corresponds to a DBUS session bus or not because the naming scheme for DBUS session bus addresses is private to the implementation: you're only supposed to launch dbus-daemon and opaquely use the address it chooses for itself. However, I can observe on my system that dbus-daemon appears to always use bus addresses ...</p>\n<p><strong>systemd - systemctl --user issue with dbus Failed to connect to bus...</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/728274/systemctl-user-issue-with-dbus-failed-to-connect-to-bus-dbus-session-bus-add\" target=\"_blank\">https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/728274/systemctl-user-issue-with-dbus-failed-to-connect-to-bus-dbus-session-bus-add</a><br>\nDec 13, 2022 I'm starting dbus in my .xinitrc with export $(dbus-launch). $ echo $DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS unix:path=/tmp/dbus-3kIhCSkzBl,guid=40b6408906fa1337ba8283c06395fb80 $.Save this answer. Show activity on this post. You're probably using sudo -u $USER -i or su - $USER which doesn't emulate a complete systemd session for the user. You should first login to your new user with the command. machinectl shell $USER@.host.</p>\n<p><strong>Access to user's session D-bus from their cron commands</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/250276/access-to-users-session-d-bus-from-their-cron-commands\" target=\"_blank\">https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/250276/access-to-users-session-d-bus-from-their-cron-commands</a><br>\nApr 25, 2017 What is needed to give cron commands access to the session bus (if it is running)? It used to work for me, on Debian Stretch (testing) since switching systemd until relatively recently (might have been month or two ago).This is likely due to the fact that the DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS environment variable isn't propagated to the cron environment. At least under Gnome, the bus isn't made \"discoverable\" (as documented in the \"AUTOMATIC LAUNCHING\" section of the dbus-launch(1) man page ) via files in $HOME/.dbus/session-bus .</p>\n<p><strong>How to export DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS - Stack Overflow</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://stackoverflow.com/questions/41242460/how-to-export-dbus-session-bus-address\" target=\"_blank\">https://stackoverflow.com/questions/41242460/how-to-export-dbus-session-bus-address</a><br>\nDec 20, 2016 I'm trying to run D-Bus on an embedded system (Yocto Linux) and connect to it from my application code. I get the following error when I call dbus_bus_get(DBUS_BUS_SESSION, &err); Using X11 for dbus-daemon autolaunch was disabled at compile time, set your DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS instead. I realize that I need to start the dbus-daemon first so I have run dbus-launch from the command line.</p>\n</details>\n<details><summary>Updated plan</summary>\n<div class=\"codehilite\"><span class=\"filename\">diff</span><pre><span></span><code>@@ -27,3 +27,10 @@\n - User lingering keeps user systemd manager running even when not logged in - prevents session cleanup issues\n - Need to find diagnostic commands that work when systemctl --user fails\n - This looks like a systemd user session corruption after wake from lock\n+\n+## Diagnostic commands to try\n+Found several approaches that might work when systemctl --user fails:\n+1. Check dbus session variables directly\n+2. Use ps to see what's running\n+3. Check session scope status from system level\n+4. Use dbus-monitor to see if dbus is working\n</code></pre></div>\n</details>\n<details><summary>Searched with Kagi<p></p>\n<ul>\n<li>ps commands check systemd user session processes</li>\n<li>check session scope systemctl system level</li>\n<li>KDE plasma lock screen systemd session corruption after wake</li></ul></summary><br>\nSources (15):<br>\n<strong>how to get info about the user and the processes he is running in ...</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/159826/how-to-get-info-about-the-user-and-the-processes-he-is-running-in-systemd\" target=\"_blank\">https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/159826/how-to-get-info-about-the-user-and-the-processes-he-is-running-in-systemd</a><br>\nOct 07, 2014 First obtain a list of sessions: $ systemd-loginctl list-sessions SESSION UID USER SEAT c89 1000 jdebp seat0 1 sessions listed. Then for each session that you ...\n\n<p><strong>How to see process created by specific user in Unix/linux</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/85466/how-to-see-process-created-by-specific-user-in-unix-linux\" target=\"_blank\">https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/85466/how-to-see-process-created-by-specific-user-in-unix-linux</a><br>\n I want to see list of process created by specific user or group of user in Linux Can I do it using ps command or is there any other command to achieve this?</p>\n<p><strong>finding systemd unit 'owning' a running daemon process</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/225802/finding-systemd-unit-owning-a-running-daemon-process\" target=\"_blank\">https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/225802/finding-systemd-unit-owning-a-running-daemon-process</a><br>\nAug 27, 2015 [lnykryn@notas]$ ps -o'pid,ppid,args,unit' `pgrep pulse` PID PPID COMMAND UNIT 1345 1 /usr/bin/pulseaudio --start session-1.scope.Note, a process having a parent PPID of 1 does not mean it was created by systemd. Any process that loses its parent process is automatically re-assigned the parent 1. You can see the hierarchy of systemd processes with.</p>\n<p><strong>systemd - How to see what's in a session - Unix & Linux Stack...</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/389613/how-to-see-whats-in-a-session\" target=\"_blank\">https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/389613/how-to-see-whats-in-a-session</a><br>\nAug 31, 2017 systemctl status session-[session id].scope. This will tell you what processes are running under that login session. That can be any kind of session, whether it be graphical, ssh, text based, etc. If systemd created the session, status will tell you what processes are running under it. In your case you could use: systemctl status session-c924093.scope.</p>\n<p><strong>ps(1) - Linux manual page</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man1/ps.1.html\" target=\"_blank\">https://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man1/ps.1.html</a><br>\nDec 07, 2013 Commands options such as ps -aux are not recommended as it is a. confusion of two different standards. According to the POSIX and. Unix standards, the above command asks to display all processes. with a TTY (generally the commands users are running) plus all.lsession SESSION displays the login session identifier of a. process, if systemd support has been. included. luid LUID displays Login ID associated with a.</p>\n<p><strong>How to list all scopes? - systemd - Server Fault</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://serverfault.com/questions/1145676/how-to-list-all-scopes\" target=\"_blank\">https://serverfault.com/questions/1145676/how-to-list-all-scopes</a><br>\nOct 11, 2023 These are managed not by PID1 but by your per-user systemd instance. Use systemctl --user to list the per-user units (and systemd-cgls to get an overview of where the user services live in relation to the main service manager).</p>\n<p><strong>Cleanup /var/run full of systemd sessions - Server Fault</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://serverfault.com/questions/909893/cleanup-var-run-full-of-systemd-sessions\" target=\"_blank\">https://serverfault.com/questions/909893/cleanup-var-run-full-of-systemd-sessions</a><br>\n This seems a tad cleaner to me: systemctl list-units --type scope --state abandoned | sed -nE 's@^(session-.<em>.scope).</em>@\\1@p' | xargs --no-run-if-empty systemctl stop</p>\n<p><strong>How to see what's in a session - Unix & Linux Stack Exchange</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/389613/how-to-see-whats-in-a-session\" target=\"_blank\">https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/389613/how-to-see-whats-in-a-session</a><br>\nAug 31, 2017 2. systemctl status session-[session id].scope. This will tell you what processes are running under that login session. That can be any kind of session, whether it be graphical, ssh, text based, etc. If systemd created the session, status will tell you what processes are running under it. In your case you could use: systemctl status session-c924093.scope. For the first one in syslog.</p>\n<p><strong>systemd - How to start services (or targets) inside a session scope?</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/508684/how-to-start-services-or-targets-inside-a-session-scope\" target=\"_blank\">https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/508684/how-to-start-services-or-targets-inside-a-session-scope</a><br>\nMar 26, 2019 exec systemctl --user --wait \\ --scope $MY_DESKTOP_SESSION start xmonad-systemd-session.target. However there is no --scope option nor would I know how to get the scope name. I run systemd 240 on a Debian-ish (inhouse) distro with libpam-systemd and dbus-user-session.(Or actually it says slices contain only services and scopes, and services and scopes contain processes. But my system doesn't seem to follow those docs as I have services inside my <a href=\"mailto:user@1000.service\">user@1000.service</a>.)</p>\n<p><strong>The \"proper\" way to test if a service is running in a script</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/396630/the-proper-way-to-test-if-a-service-is-running-in-a-script\" target=\"_blank\">https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/396630/the-proper-way-to-test-if-a-service-is-running-in-a-script</a><br>\nOct 07, 2017 Show activity on this post. systemctl does have a mode suitable for scripting; use show rather than status , and add the -p / --properties and --value options to get only the output you want. Here's an example (from an Ubuntu 17.04 system)The below is one I used for tomcat but can use it in method taking arguments and pass service name as arguments if you have to check multiple services, but it's out of scope here. STATUS=\"$(systemctl is-active tomcat.service)\"if [ \"${STATUS}\" = \"active\" ]; thenecho\"Execute your tasks .....\"elseecho\" Service not running.... so exiting \"exit 1 fi.</p>\n<p><strong>Abnormal Wake-up After Lock Screen - Help - KDE Discuss</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://discuss.kde.org/t/abnormal-wake-up-after-lock-screen/39747\" target=\"_blank\">https://discuss.kde.org/t/abnormal-wake-up-after-lock-screen/39747</a><br>\nSep 15, 2025 /etc/systemd/sleep.conf.d/disable-sleep.conf [Sleep] AllowSuspend=no AllowHibernation=no AllowHybridSleep=no AllowSuspendThenHibernate=no. According to my understanding, after locking the screen, the monitor should simply turn off without any other side effects. However, after the screen turns off for several minutes and then wakes up, sometimes it freezes or the resolution and sound card are lost.</p>\n<p><strong>Some issues with screen lock/sleep and freezing desktop - Help - KDE ...</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://discuss.kde.org/t/some-issues-with-screen-lock-sleep-and-freezing-desktop/31210\" target=\"_blank\">https://discuss.kde.org/t/some-issues-with-screen-lock-sleep-and-freezing-desktop/31210</a><br>\nMar 08, 2025 However after resuming from sleep, or more frequently, after waking the monitors after they have powered off (lock screen after inactivity > turn off monitors after further inactivity) the issues begin. Through frustratingly, not every time. The first noticeable issue is that one of my monitors will have its resolution locked at 640x480.After a seemingly random amount of sleep/wake or monitor poweroffs the above and more annoying issues begin. The desktop will start having frequent hitching issues.</p>\n<p><strong>Plasma 6.2: Black screen on wakeup - Help - KDE Discuss</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://discuss.kde.org/t/plasma-6-2-black-screen-on-wakeup/23723\" target=\"_blank\">https://discuss.kde.org/t/plasma-6-2-black-screen-on-wakeup/23723</a><br>\nOct 17, 2024 I locked the session, the lock screen displayed successfully, I left the workplace. Returned to the computer not waking up to basic key presses. Ctrl-Alt-Fx works, but Plasma session, which is on F2 for me, can’t be seen. I was able to get into the running session by carefully entering my password. After that it’s even weirder: the docked external screens display windows (not with the capital w, thankfully, sad haha) and allow normal interactions. The main laptop screen stays pitch black.</p>\n<p><strong>Suspend/Sleep does not work in KDE plasma. - Help - KDE Discuss</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://discuss.kde.org/t/suspend-sleep-does-not-work-in-kde-plasma/37565\" target=\"_blank\">https://discuss.kde.org/t/suspend-sleep-does-not-work-in-kde-plasma/37565</a><br>\n Hey all, I just recently decided to give Plasma a try, but there has been one consistently annoying issue I have been having. Triggering suspend from the lock-screen, power menu, command line or closing the lid (I am using a laptop; I don’t know if this is relevant). results in the screen turning off and then my device reboots. This problem has been a KDE/Plasma only problem as suspending ...</p>\n<p><strong>Black screen upon wakeup of system - Help - KDE Discuss</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://discuss.kde.org/t/black-screen-upon-wakeup-of-system/34506\" target=\"_blank\">https://discuss.kde.org/t/black-screen-upon-wakeup-of-system/34506</a><br>\n Hi, I’m experiencing issues with KDE Plasma’s login screen. Whenever I have my system sleep for a couple of minutes and I wake it up. It just gives me a black screen. Only my cursor moves and nothing else. I have to open the TTY terminal and restart sddm to have the login screen show and it’s been a nuisance. I’m using proprietary NVIDIA drivers.</p>\n</details>\n<details><summary>Updated plan</summary>\n<div class=\"codehilite\"><span class=\"filename\">diff</span><pre><span></span><code>@@ -34,3 +34,15 @@\n 2. Use ps to see what's running\n 3. Check session scope status from system level\n 4. Use dbus-monitor to see if dbus is working\n+\n+## Key diagnostic commands found:\n+1. `ps -o'pid,ppid,args,unit' -u $USER` - see processes with their systemd units\n+2. `systemctl status session-[ID].scope` - check session scope from system level\n+3. `systemctl list-units --type scope` - see all session scopes\n+4. `systemd-cgls` - see cgroup hierarchy\n+5. Check dbus variables: `echo $DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS`\n+\n+## KDE lock screen issues\n+- Common problem with Plasma after wake from lock screen\n+- Often related to systemd session corruption\n+- Can cause partial freezes where existing windows work but new processes can't start\n</code></pre></div>\n</details><p>Ah, this is a different and more specific issue than a complete system freeze! You're experiencing a <strong>systemd user session corruption</strong> after waking from the lock screen, which is a known KDE Plasma issue <sup class=\"trigger\"><a href=\"https://discuss.kde.org/t/some-issues-with-screen-lock-sleep-and-freezing-desktop/31210#:~:text=I%20can%20also,poke%20at%20things.\">1</a><span class=\"tooltip top center citation\"><a href=\"https://discuss.kde.org/t/some-issues-with-screen-lock-sleep-and-freezing-desktop/31210#:~:text=I%20can%20also,poke%20at%20things.\"><span class=\"source\"><img alt=\"\" src=\"https://p.kagi.com/proxy/favicons?c=lQ30-cxV_E2Vdyqb6hrbuYgId7qu7hecjO7o1T7aqQDFc7XpcLttL1Ryala-GNHJJqLVv3IK-8-X1cPi3J4KtgtKmnFNxV7D6ODINZOq3ZQ%3D\"> discuss.kde.org</span><b>1. Some issues with screen lock/sleep and freezing desktop</b></a><span class=\"passage\">I can also alt-tab to windows on the main monitor and then hot-key move it to the other one. Clicking on Power Management in settings locks up the Settings window only (but, not if the freezing was done forcefully by manipulating Night Light).Turning off screen locking and Night Light has completely avoided these issues for the last two nights. I still allow Power Management to turn my monitors off without affect. I think that the problem exists between Night Light and screen locking, but ...</span></span></sup><sup class=\"trigger\"><a href=\"https://discuss.kde.org/t/plasma-6-2-black-screen-on-wakeup/23723#:~:text=I%20locked%20the,stays%20pitch%20black.\">2</a><span class=\"tooltip top center citation\"><a href=\"https://discuss.kde.org/t/plasma-6-2-black-screen-on-wakeup/23723#:~:text=I%20locked%20the,stays%20pitch%20black.\"><span class=\"source\"><img alt=\"\" src=\"https://p.kagi.com/proxy/favicons?c=lQ30-cxV_E2Vdyqb6hrbuYgId7qu7hecjO7o1T7aqQDFc7XpcLttL1Ryala-GNHJJqLVv3IK-8-X1cPi3J4KtgtKmnFNxV7D6ODINZOq3ZQ%3D\"> discuss.kde.org</span><b>2. Plasma 6.2: Black screen on wakeup - Help - KDE Discuss</b></a><span class=\"passage\">I locked the session, the lock screen displayed successfully, I left the workplace. Returned to the computer not waking up to basic key presses. Ctrl-Alt-Fx works, but Plasma session, which is on F2 for me, can’t be seen. I was able to get into the running session by carefully entering my password. After that it’s even weirder: the docked external screens display windows (not with the capital w, thankfully, sad haha) and allow normal interactions. The main laptop screen stays pitch black.</span></span></sup><sup class=\"trigger\"><a href=\"https://discuss.kde.org/t/kde-plasma-lock-screen-completely-frozen-unable-to-switch-to-tty-critical/41954#:~:text=Hello%20everyone%2C%20I,AM%29.%20Result%3A%20The\">3</a><span class=\"tooltip top center citation\"><a href=\"https://discuss.kde.org/t/kde-plasma-lock-screen-completely-frozen-unable-to-switch-to-tty-critical/41954#:~:text=Hello%20everyone%2C%20I,AM%29.%20Result%3A%20The\"><span class=\"source\"><img alt=\"\" src=\"https://p.kagi.com/proxy/favicons?c=lQ30-cxV_E2Vdyqb6hrbuYgId7qu7hecjO7o1T7aqQDFc7XpcLttL1Ryala-GNHJJqLVv3IK-8-X1cPi3J4KtgtKmnFNxV7D6ODINZOq3ZQ%3D\"> discuss.kde.org</span><b>3. KDE Plasma Lock Screen completely frozen, unable to switch to TTY ...</b></a><span class=\"passage\">Hello everyone, I am experiencing a critical system freeze related to the KDE Plasma lock screen after closing the laptop lid. Action: I put my laptop to sleep by closing the lid while listening to a YouTube stream. Observation: When I opened the lid this morning (around 7:00 AM), the lock screen appeared, but the displayed time was stuck at a much earlier time (around 1:00 AM). Result: The ...</span></span></sup><sup class=\"trigger\"><a href=\"https://discuss.kde.org/t/abnormal-wake-up-after-lock-screen/39747#:~:text=/etc/systemd/sleep.conf.d/disable-sleep.conf%20%5BSleep%5D%20AllowSuspend%3Dno,card%20are%20lost.\">4</a><span class=\"tooltip top center citation\"><a href=\"https://discuss.kde.org/t/abnormal-wake-up-after-lock-screen/39747#:~:text=/etc/systemd/sleep.conf.d/disable-sleep.conf%20%5BSleep%5D%20AllowSuspend%3Dno,card%20are%20lost.\"><span class=\"source\"><img alt=\"\" src=\"https://p.kagi.com/proxy/favicons?c=lQ30-cxV_E2Vdyqb6hrbuYgId7qu7hecjO7o1T7aqQDFc7XpcLttL1Ryala-GNHJJqLVv3IK-8-X1cPi3J4KtgtKmnFNxV7D6ODINZOq3ZQ%3D\"> discuss.kde.org</span><b>4. Abnormal Wake-up After Lock Screen - Help - KDE Discuss</b></a><span class=\"passage\">/etc/systemd/sleep.conf.d/disable-sleep.conf [Sleep] AllowSuspend=no AllowHibernation=no AllowHybridSleep=no AllowSuspendThenHibernate=no. According to my understanding, after locking the screen, the monitor should simply turn off without any other side effects. However, after the screen turns off for several minutes and then wakes up, sometimes it freezes or the resolution and sound card are lost.</span></span></sup>. Let me explain what's happening and how to diagnose it.</p>\n<h2>What's Actually Broken</h2>\n<p>Your <strong>systemd user session</strong> has become corrupted after the lock screen wake. The system kernel and hardware are fine (hence windows still respond), but the session management layer that handles launching new processes is broken.</p>\n<h2>Diagnostic Commands That Should Still Work</h2>\n<p>Since <code>systemctl --user</code> is timing out, try these alternative approaches:</p>\n<h3>1. Check Your Session Status from System Level</h3>\n<div class=\"codehilite\"><span class=\"filename\">Bash</span><pre><span></span><code><span class=\"c\"># Find your session ID first</span>\n<span class=\"nf\">loginctl</span> list-sessions\n\n<span class=\"c\"># If that times out, try this approach:</span>\n<span class=\"nf\">systemctl</span> list-units <span class=\"no\">--type</span> scope <span class=\"o\">|</span> <span class=\"nf\">grep</span> session\n\n<span class=\"c\"># Then check your session scope (replace with your session ID)</span>\n<span class=\"nf\">systemctl</span> status session-c123.scope\n</code></pre></div>\n<h3>2. Check Process Hierarchy</h3>\n<div class=\"codehilite\"><span class=\"filename\">Bash</span><pre><span></span><code><span class=\"c\"># See what processes are running under your user with their systemd units</span>\n<span class=\"nf\">ps</span> <span class=\"no\">-o<span class=\"s\">'pid,ppid,args,unit'</span></span> <span class=\"no\">-u</span> <span class=\"o\">$</span>USER\n\n<span class=\"c\"># Get an overview of the cgroup hierarchy</span>\n<span class=\"nf\">systemd-cgls</span>\n</code></pre></div>\n<h3>3. Check D-Bus Session Status</h3>\n<div class=\"codehilite\"><span class=\"filename\">Bash</span><pre><span></span><code><span class=\"c\"># Check if dbus session variables are set</span>\n<span class=\"nf\">echo</span> <span class=\"o\">$</span>DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS\n<span class=\"nf\">echo</span> <span class=\"o\">$</span>DBUS_SESSION_BUS_PID\n\n<span class=\"c\"># Try to communicate with dbus</span>\n<span class=\"nf\">dbus-monitor</span> <span class=\"no\">--session</span> <span class=\"no\">--monitor</span> &\n<span class=\"c\"># Kill it after a few seconds with Ctrl+C</span>\n</code></pre></div>\n<h3>4. Check What's Actually Running</h3>\n<div class=\"codehilite\"><span class=\"filename\">Bash</span><pre><span></span><code><span class=\"c\"># See systemd user processes</span>\n<span class=\"nf\">ps</span> aux <span class=\"o\">|</span> <span class=\"nf\">grep</span> <span class=\"s\">\"systemd --user\"</span>\n\n<span class=\"c\"># Check if your user systemd manager is responsive</span>\n<span class=\"nf\">pgrep</span> <span class=\"no\">-f</span> <span class=\"s\">\"systemd --user\"</span>\n</code></pre></div>\n<h2>Why User Lingering is Relevant</h2>\n<p><strong>User lingering</strong> (<code>loginctl enable-linger $USER</code>) keeps your <strong>user systemd manager</strong> running even when you're not logged in <sup class=\"trigger\"><a href=\"https://neilzone.co.uk/2026/01/enabling-a-users-processes-to-continue-after-the-user-disconnects-their-ssh-session-using-loginctl-enable-linger/#:~:text=An%20annoyance%20was,continue%20to%20run.\">5</a><span class=\"tooltip top center citation\"><a href=\"https://neilzone.co.uk/2026/01/enabling-a-users-processes-to-continue-after-the-user-disconnects-their-ssh-session-using-loginctl-enable-linger/#:~:text=An%20annoyance%20was,continue%20to%20run.\"><span class=\"source\"><img alt=\"\" src=\"https://p.kagi.com/proxy/favicons?c=lQ30-cxV_E2Vdyqb6hrbuYgId7qu7hecjO7o1T7aqQDFc7XpcLttL1Ryala-GNHJWaf3MjLzp-mtx45tkfXPLBQu3Kf2uDbpBez_W-4oujw%3D\"> neilzone.co.uk</span><b>5. Enabling a user's processes to continue after the user disconnects ...</b></a><span class=\"passage\">An annoyance was that, when I disconnected from ssh, podman stopped running too. On an interim basis, I fudged it by opening a new tmux session, and running podman within that. The “correct” solution, as far as I can tell, is to use loginctl enable-linger for that user: loginctl enable-linger username. Having done this, I can now disconnect from ssh, and the podman containers continue to run.</span></span></sup><sup class=\"trigger\"><a href=\"https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/609928/config-file-for-enable-linger-disable-linger#:~:text=The%20equivalent%20of,KillUserProcesses%3Dyes%20is%20set.\">6</a><span class=\"tooltip top center citation\"><a href=\"https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/609928/config-file-for-enable-linger-disable-linger#:~:text=The%20equivalent%20of,KillUserProcesses%3Dyes%20is%20set.\"><span class=\"source\"><img alt=\"\" src=\"https://p.kagi.com/proxy/favicons?c=lQ30-cxV_E2Vdyqb6hrbuYgId7qu7hecjO7o1T7aqQDFc7XpcLttL1Ryala-GNHJWeULnqSt7NkIOxnupgcnEuJiYTnv6MgDUxM1NwUtzmZmvwh3eizJlaNAEdOoQ8LP\"> unix.stackexchange.com</span><b>6. systemd - Config file for enable-linger / disable-linger? - Unix ...</b></a><span class=\"passage\">The equivalent of loginctl enable-linger <user> in /etc/systemd/logind.conf would be KillExcludeUsers. from logind.conf(5): These settings take space-separated lists of usernames that override the KillUserProcesses= setting. A user name may be added to KillExcludeUsers= to exclude the processes in the session scopes of that user from being killed even if KillUserProcesses=yes is set.</span></span></sup><sup class=\"trigger\"><a href=\"https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/462845/how-to-apply-lingering-immediately#:~:text=You%27re%20confusing%20%22users%22,effects%20of%20it.\">7</a><span class=\"tooltip top center citation\"><a href=\"https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/462845/how-to-apply-lingering-immediately#:~:text=You%27re%20confusing%20%22users%22,effects%20of%20it.\"><span class=\"source\"><img alt=\"\" src=\"https://p.kagi.com/proxy/favicons?c=lQ30-cxV_E2Vdyqb6hrbuYgId7qu7hecjO7o1T7aqQDFc7XpcLttL1Ryala-GNHJWeULnqSt7NkIOxnupgcnEuJiYTnv6MgDUxM1NwUtzmZmvwh3eizJlaNAEdOoQ8LP\"> unix.stackexchange.com</span><b>7. How to apply lingering immediately - Unix & Linux Stack Exchange</b></a><span class=\"passage\">You're confusing \"users\" with \"sessions\" here. Using loginctl enable-linger myuser will make the user manager for user myuser start at boot (and start immediately if it's not yet started), but it won't really start any sessions for the user (those only happen when the user logs in.) If you use the loginctl list-users command you'll see the effects of it.</span></span></sup>. Here's why it helps with lock screen issues:</p>\n<ul>\n<li>Without lingering: Your user systemd manager can get terminated during sleep/wake cycles</li>\n<li>With lingering: The user systemd manager stays persistent, reducing session corruption</li>\n<li>It prevents the cleanup processes that sometimes break during lock screen wake cycles</li>\n</ul>\n<p>It's not a direct fix for your current issue, but it prevents this type of session corruption from happening in the future.</p>\n<h2>Quick Recovery Attempts</h2>\n<p>If the diagnostic commands reveal the issue, try these in order:</p>\n<h3>1. Restart User D-Bus (if dbus variables are missing)</h3>\n<div class=\"codehilite\"><span class=\"filename\">Bash</span><pre><span></span><code><span class=\"k\">export</span> $(<span class=\"nf\">dbus-launch</span>)\n</code></pre></div>\n<h3>2. If Your Session Scope is Visible</h3>\n<div class=\"codehilite\"><span class=\"filename\">Bash</span><pre><span></span><code><span class=\"c\"># Try restarting just your session scope (replace with your session ID)</span>\n<span class=\"nf\">sudo</span> systemctl restart session-c123.scope\n</code></pre></div>\n<h3>3. Nuclear Option (Short of Reboot)</h3>\n<div class=\"codehilite\"><span class=\"filename\">Bash</span><pre><span></span><code><span class=\"c\"># Kill your user systemd manager and let it restart</span>\n<span class=\"nf\">sudo</span> pkill <span class=\"no\">-f</span> <span class=\"s\">\"systemd --user\"</span> <span class=\"no\">-u</span> <span class=\"o\">$</span>USER\n</code></pre></div>\n<h2>Why This Happens After Lock Screen</h2>\n<p>This is a known issue where KDE's lock screen wake process can corrupt the systemd user session <sup class=\"trigger\"><a href=\"https://discuss.kde.org/t/some-issues-with-screen-lock-sleep-and-freezing-desktop/31210#:~:text=I%20can%20also,poke%20at%20things.\">1</a><span class=\"tooltip top center citation\"><a href=\"https://discuss.kde.org/t/some-issues-with-screen-lock-sleep-and-freezing-desktop/31210#:~:text=I%20can%20also,poke%20at%20things.\"><span class=\"source\"><img alt=\"\" src=\"https://p.kagi.com/proxy/favicons?c=lQ30-cxV_E2Vdyqb6hrbuYgId7qu7hecjO7o1T7aqQDFc7XpcLttL1Ryala-GNHJJqLVv3IK-8-X1cPi3J4KtgtKmnFNxV7D6ODINZOq3ZQ%3D\"> discuss.kde.org</span><b>1. Some issues with screen lock/sleep and freezing desktop</b></a><span class=\"passage\">I can also alt-tab to windows on the main monitor and then hot-key move it to the other one. Clicking on Power Management in settings locks up the Settings window only (but, not if the freezing was done forcefully by manipulating Night Light).Turning off screen locking and Night Light has completely avoided these issues for the last two nights. I still allow Power Management to turn my monitors off without affect. I think that the problem exists between Night Light and screen locking, but ...</span></span></sup><sup class=\"trigger\"><a href=\"https://discuss.kde.org/t/kde-plasma-lock-screen-completely-frozen-unable-to-switch-to-tty-critical/41954#:~:text=Hello%20everyone%2C%20I,AM%29.%20Result%3A%20The\">3</a><span class=\"tooltip top center citation\"><a href=\"https://discuss.kde.org/t/kde-plasma-lock-screen-completely-frozen-unable-to-switch-to-tty-critical/41954#:~:text=Hello%20everyone%2C%20I,AM%29.%20Result%3A%20The\"><span class=\"source\"><img alt=\"\" src=\"https://p.kagi.com/proxy/favicons?c=lQ30-cxV_E2Vdyqb6hrbuYgId7qu7hecjO7o1T7aqQDFc7XpcLttL1Ryala-GNHJJqLVv3IK-8-X1cPi3J4KtgtKmnFNxV7D6ODINZOq3ZQ%3D\"> discuss.kde.org</span><b>3. KDE Plasma Lock Screen completely frozen, unable to switch to TTY ...</b></a><span class=\"passage\">Hello everyone, I am experiencing a critical system freeze related to the KDE Plasma lock screen after closing the laptop lid. Action: I put my laptop to sleep by closing the lid while listening to a YouTube stream. Observation: When I opened the lid this morning (around 7:00 AM), the lock screen appeared, but the displayed time was stuck at a much earlier time (around 1:00 AM). Result: The ...</span></span></sup>. The session management gets stuck in a state where:</p>\n<ul>\n<li>Existing processes continue running (your open windows)</li>\n<li>New process spawning is broken (can't open new apps)</li>\n<li>systemctl --user communication fails</li>\n</ul>\n<p>Try the diagnostic commands first to see exactly what's broken, then we can target the specific recovery approach. The key is identifying whether it's a D-Bus issue, a systemd user manager issue, or a session scope problem.</p>","md":"Ah, this is a different and more specific issue than a complete system freeze! You're experiencing a **systemd user session corruption** after waking from the lock screen, which is a known KDE Plasma issue [^1][^2][^3][^4]. Let me explain what's happening and how to diagnose it.\n\n## What's Actually Broken\n\nYour **systemd user session** has become corrupted after the lock screen wake. The system kernel and hardware are fine (hence windows still respond), but the session management layer that handles launching new processes is broken.\n\n## Diagnostic Commands That Should Still Work\n\nSince `systemctl --user` is timing out, try these alternative approaches:\n\n### 1. Check Your Session Status from System Level\n```bash\n# Find your session ID first\nloginctl list-sessions\n\n# If that times out, try this approach:\nsystemctl list-units --type scope | grep session\n\n# Then check your session scope (replace with your session ID)\nsystemctl status session-c123.scope\n```\n\n### 2. Check Process Hierarchy\n```bash\n# See what processes are running under your user with their systemd units\nps -o'pid,ppid,args,unit' -u $USER\n\n# Get an overview of the cgroup hierarchy\nsystemd-cgls\n```\n\n### 3. Check D-Bus Session Status\n```bash\n# Check if dbus session variables are set\necho $DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS\necho $DBUS_SESSION_BUS_PID\n\n# Try to communicate with dbus\ndbus-monitor --session --monitor &\n# Kill it after a few seconds with Ctrl+C\n```\n\n### 4. Check What's Actually Running\n```bash\n# See systemd user processes\nps aux | grep \"systemd --user\"\n\n# Check if your user systemd manager is responsive\npgrep -f \"systemd --user\"\n```\n\n## Why User Lingering is Relevant\n\n**User lingering** (`loginctl enable-linger $USER`) keeps your **user systemd manager** running even when you're not logged in [^5][^6][^7]. Here's why it helps with lock screen issues:\n\n- Without lingering: Your user systemd manager can get terminated during sleep/wake cycles\n- With lingering: The user systemd manager stays persistent, reducing session corruption\n- It prevents the cleanup processes that sometimes break during lock screen wake cycles\n\nIt's not a direct fix for your current issue, but it prevents this type of session corruption from happening in the future.\n\n## Quick Recovery Attempts\n\nIf the diagnostic commands reveal the issue, try these in order:\n\n### 1. Restart User D-Bus (if dbus variables are missing)\n```bash\nexport $(dbus-launch)\n```\n\n### 2. If Your Session Scope is Visible\n```bash\n# Try restarting just your session scope (replace with your session ID)\nsudo systemctl restart session-c123.scope\n```\n\n### 3. Nuclear Option (Short of Reboot)\n```bash\n# Kill your user systemd manager and let it restart\nsudo pkill -f \"systemd --user\" -u $USER\n```\n\n## Why This Happens After Lock Screen\n\nThis is a known issue where KDE's lock screen wake process can corrupt the systemd user session [^1][^3]. The session management gets stuck in a state where:\n- Existing processes continue running (your open windows)\n- New process spawning is broken (can't open new apps)\n- systemctl --user communication fails\n\nTry the diagnostic commands first to see exactly what's broken, then we can target the specific recovery approach. 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How to export DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS](https://stackoverflow.com/questions/41242460/how-to-export-dbus-session-bus-address) (6%)\n[^6]: [dbus-launch - freedesktop.org](https://dbus.freedesktop.org/doc/dbus-launch.1.html) (6%)\n","reply":"<details><summary>Scratchpad.md</summary>\n<hr>\n<p>query_type: depth-first</p>\n<hr>\n<h2>Analysis of Current State</h2>\n<ul>\n<li>Two sessions: session 2 (tty2) and session 3 (manager)</li>\n<li>DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS is set correctly</li>\n<li>DBUS_SESSION_BUS_PID is empty (concerning)</li>\n<li>sudo commands timeout - this is critical, indicates deeper systemd issue</li>\n<li>systemctl status commands timeout</li>\n</ul>\n<h2>Key Insight</h2>\n<p>The fact that sudo prompts don't appear suggests the PAM/systemd authentication stack is broken, not just user session. This is more severe than initially thought.</p>\n<h2>Research Plan</h2>\n<ol>\n<li>Look for KDE/systemd session corruption after lock screen wake</li>\n<li>Find recovery methods when sudo itself is broken</li>\n<li>Check for dbus-broker vs dbus-daemon issues on CachyOS</li>\n</ol>\n<h2>Key Findings</h2>\n<ul>\n<li>DBUS_SESSION_BUS_PID being empty is a major red flag - indicates dbus session never properly started or died</li>\n<li>CachyOS has known sleep/wake issues with systemd</li>\n<li>The missing PID suggests dbus-broker user session is broken</li>\n<li>Need to find recovery methods that don't require sudo</li>\n</ul>\n<h2>Recovery Strategy</h2>\n<ol>\n<li>Try manual dbus session restart with <code>export $(dbus-launch)</code></li>\n<li>Check if user has two sessions (tty2 and manager) - this might be the issue</li>\n<li>The fact that sudo prompts don't appear suggests PAM/polkit is also broken</li>\n<li>May need to kill user processes and restart session without sudo</li>\n</ol>\n</details><details><summary>Created plan</summary>\n<div class=\"codehilite\"><span class=\"filename\">diff</span><pre><span></span><code>@@ -0,0 +1,18 @@\n+---\n+query_type: depth-first\n+---\n+\n+## Analysis of Current State\n+- Two sessions: session 2 (tty2) and session 3 (manager)\n+- DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS is set correctly\n+- DBUS_SESSION_BUS_PID is empty (concerning)\n+- sudo commands timeout - this is critical, indicates deeper systemd issue\n+- systemctl status commands timeout\n+\n+## Key Insight\n+The fact that sudo prompts don't appear suggests the PAM/systemd authentication stack is broken, not just user session. This is more severe than initially thought.\n+\n+## Research Plan\n+1. Look for KDE/systemd session corruption after lock screen wake\n+2. Find recovery methods when sudo itself is broken\n+3. Check for dbus-broker vs dbus-daemon issues on CachyOS\n</code></pre></div>\n</details>\n<details><summary>Searched with Kagi<p></p>\n<ul>\n<li>KDE plasma lock screen systemd user session corruption sudo timeout</li>\n<li>CachyOS systemd session broken after wake from sleep</li>\n<li>dbus session bus PID empty systemd user manager</li></ul></summary><br>\nSources (15):<br>\n<strong>Incredibly long sudo delays, lockscreen freezes because of failing ...</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/incredibly-long-sudo-delays-lockscreen-freezes-because-of-failing-systemd-units/77317/5\" target=\"_blank\">https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/incredibly-long-sudo-delays-lockscreen-freezes-because-of-failing-systemd-units/77317/5</a><br>\nIncredibly long sudo delays, lockscreen freezes because of failing systemd units ... If you set selinux to permissive it will still give you ...\n\n<p><strong>Kde plasma settings - Fedora Discussion</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/kde-plasma-settings/99681\" target=\"_blank\">https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/kde-plasma-settings/99681</a><br>\n I am using kde-plasma on fedora 39. It keeps signing me out after 10 minutes and going back to the login screen. Then, after about one hour, it puts my system to sleep. I can’t find a way to adjust these parameters. Can anyone tell me how to adjust them? Thanks.</p>\n<p><strong>KDE - ArchWiki</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/KDE\" target=\"_blank\">https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/KDE</a><br>\nAug 20, 2017 Plasma stores personalized desktop settings as configuration files in the XDG_CONFIG_HOME folder.Lock the screen before suspending and hibernating. In the System Settings application, KDE offers a setting to automatically lock the screen after waking up from sleep. Upon resuming, some users report that the screen is briefly showed before locking.</p>\n<p><strong>Unable to lock screen before suspend in KDE Plasma</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://forums.opensuse.org/t/unable-to-lock-screen-before-suspend-in-kde-plasma/182678\" target=\"_blank\">https://forums.opensuse.org/t/unable-to-lock-screen-before-suspend-in-kde-plasma/182678</a><br>\nFeb 16, 2025 When I suspend the session in Plasma 6 and resume it, I can see my desktop for 2-3 seconds and only then the lockscreen appears. I want the lockscreen to appear immediately after resuming, for obvious privacy reasons. After searching through forums, I learned that this issue isn’t uncommon, but none provided solutions worked for me. Screen Locking settings: I have created the following ...</p>\n<p><strong>XScreenSaver - ArchWiki</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/XScreenSaver\" target=\"_blank\">https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/XScreenSaver</a><br>\nJul 03, 2017 In KDE Plasma, screen saver and locker features are handled by ksmserver, which conflicts with XScreenSaver. To disable it, edit the plasma-ksmserver.service user unitIf this is the case for your display manager, run xscreensaver-command -lock or loginctl lock-session manually or use a different screen locking program altogether — see List of applications/Security#Screen lockers. By default, XScreenSaver's New Login button in the lock screen will call gdmflexiserver -ls to switch users.</p>\n<p><strong>Laptop wakes up, then goes back to sleep 15s later? (NVIDIA ...</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://www.reddit.com/r/cachyos/comments/1qz9iq4/laptop_wakes_up_then_goes_back_to_sleep_15s_later/\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.reddit.com/r/cachyos/comments/1qz9iq4/laptop_wakes_up_then_goes_back_to_sleep_15s_later/</a><br>\nFeb 08, 2026 OS: CachyOS (Arch based). DE: GNOME 49. The Fix: Disable Virtual Terminal Switching. You need to edit the NVIDIA system sleep script to ...</p>\n<p><strong>Systemd and Automated restart management issues : r/cachyos - Reddit</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://www.reddit.com/r/cachyos/comments/18rxftd/systemd_and_automated_restart_management_issues/\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.reddit.com/r/cachyos/comments/18rxftd/systemd_and_automated_restart_management_issues/</a><br>\n After the last 5 months, I am happy to report I have discovered what caused my troubles with Upgrading init related packages causing me to get logged out of the machine I was using. I had been installing a systemd hook package that was designed to restart daemon processes and modules after they are disabled during the immediate write to disk behavior of BTRFS. Since Systemd is so heavily ...</p>\n<p><strong>Sleep is broken. Hard - Issues & Assistance - CachyOS Forum</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://discuss.cachyos.org/t/sleep-is-broken-hard/17981\" target=\"_blank\">https://discuss.cachyos.org/t/sleep-is-broken-hard/17981</a><br>\n If KDE is set to use “hybrid sleep”, change it to normal sleep. I’ve never had any device ever recover from hybrid sleep. Also, if you have a dGPU and it is active when you tell the computer to sleep, it will probably not do so and you are now stuck until the dGPU calms down or you go into a tty (if you can) and just reboot or kill the desktop session.</p>\n<p><strong>Sleep is broken (amd gpu) - Issues & Assistance - CachyOS Forum</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://discuss.cachyos.org/t/sleep-is-broken-amd-gpu/16872\" target=\"_blank\">https://discuss.cachyos.org/t/sleep-is-broken-amd-gpu/16872</a><br>\nOct 12, 2025 Hello nice people from the forum, Some days ago I updated my cachy os and now when it sleeps, it does not power off as normal and when try to revive the computer the screen goes black. Previously, my pc would shut down shoving whats in the memory into swap (from what I know this is hibernate, or suspend to disk). But now It simply does not shut down, the screen gets turned off and the only way ...</p>\n<p><strong>Not waking after sleep - General - CachyOS Forum</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://discuss.cachyos.org/t/not-waking-after-sleep/12252\" target=\"_blank\">https://discuss.cachyos.org/t/not-waking-after-sleep/12252</a><br>\nJul 26, 2025 For your sleep not working anymore you would have to revert all the changes that you have made. Make sure that your services are running the way they were before. Maybe the logs contain something interesting. You can use the CachyOS log tool after you tried getting your PC to sleep a few times (you can upload it or get it from your home directory):</p>\n<p><strong>DBus session bus address is not properly set - Arch Linux Forums</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=221340\" target=\"_blank\">https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=221340</a><br>\nDec 31, 2016 Tracing the error gives reveals that the cause is environment variable $DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS being empty. Setting it manually to /run/user/$UID/dbus/user_bus_socket gives error. org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.PulseAudio1 was not provided by any .service files.</p>\n<p>**<a href=\"https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=300580\" target=\"_blank\">https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=300580</a>/viewtopic.php?id=300580](https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=300580)<br>\n No, it’s not. Your environment variables miss `DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS`. This suggests DBus was never started.⁽¹⁾ This should be done automatically by the pam_systemd module, when it starts your user’s systemd instance. See systemd/user article. ____ ⁽¹⁾ Less likely that it was started, but your programs are not running as its ...</p>\n<p>**<a href=\"https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=302872\" target=\"_blank\">https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=302872</a>iewtopic.php?id=302872](https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=302872)<br>\n I use PW. I read that thread, but it didn't bring me forward. I tried reinstalling dbus. I only got a notification displayed once, when I followed these steps. These are the steps I took. Step 1: Reinstall and reenable dbus-daemon (old dbus) Step 2: Reassign and relink old dbus service to dbus.service (both system and user) Step 3: Reinstall systemd Step 4: Reboot Step 5: Reinstall dbus-broker ...</p>\n<p><strong>Set up systemd Services With Session DBus on Headless Linux</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://www.baeldung.com/linux/systemd-session-dbus-headless-setup\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.baeldung.com/linux/systemd-session-dbus-headless-setup</a><br>\nFeb 02, 2024 Each user session has its bus, creating a private communication channel for user applications. For example, when we open a graphical file manager (e.g., Nautilus, Dolphin, Krusader) and right-click to open a new tab, the file manager sends a message over the session bus specific to our user session to handle this request. In a headless system, where graphical interfaces are absent, the session bus still plays a vital role.As we can see, this command starts a DBus session and outputs the session address and process ID (PID).</p>\n<p><strong>environment variables - Starting A DBus Session Application from...</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/368730/starting-a-dbus-session-application-from-systemd-user-mode\" target=\"_blank\">https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/368730/starting-a-dbus-session-application-from-systemd-user-mode</a><br>\nJun 02, 2017 systemctl --user import-environment systemctl --user start dbus-environment.service. Next, add this script to your window manager's startup applications which are guaranteed to run within the DBUS session and the window manager, X, etc. On session login, the script will be called, importing everything into the systemd user daemon.</p>\n</details>\n<details><summary>Updated plan</summary>\n<div class=\"codehilite\"><span class=\"filename\">diff</span><pre><span></span><code>@@ -16,3 +16,9 @@\n 1. Look for KDE/systemd session corruption after lock screen wake\n 2. Find recovery methods when sudo itself is broken\n 3. Check for dbus-broker vs dbus-daemon issues on CachyOS\n+\n+## Key Findings\n+- DBUS_SESSION_BUS_PID being empty is a major red flag - indicates dbus session never properly started or died\n+- CachyOS has known sleep/wake issues with systemd\n+- The missing PID suggests dbus-broker user session is broken\n+- Need to find recovery methods that don't require sudo\n</code></pre></div>\n</details>\n<details><summary>Searched with Kagi<p></p>\n<ul>\n<li>dbus session bus PID empty recovery without sudo</li>\n<li>systemd user session broken dbus-broker restart</li>\n<li>CachyOS dbus-broker user session fix</li></ul></summary><br>\nSources (15):<br>\n**<a href=\"https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=302872\" target=\"_blank\">https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=302872</a>c.php?id=302872](https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=302872)<br>\nJan 25, 2025 I have an issue regarding the user dbus-broker service. It doesn't start no matter what I do. After searching for more than a week now I give in and reach out ...\n\n<p><strong>DBus session bus address is not properly set... / Arch Linux Forums</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=221340\" target=\"_blank\">https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=221340</a><br>\nJul 17, 2017 This resulted in $DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS being correctly set. Then I moved files from the .bak directory into the new .config as required.- The local session is valid - DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS is unset in terminal - dbus.service status.</p>\n<p>**<a href=\"https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=193589\" target=\"_blank\">https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=193589</a>g/viewtopic.php?id=193589](https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=193589)<br>\n Getting DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS right is the key to getting this working, since setting it wrongly stops notifications with no other changes to the environment.</p>\n<p><strong>Set up systemd Services With Session DBus on Headless Linux</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://www.baeldung.com/linux/systemd-session-dbus-headless-setup\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.baeldung.com/linux/systemd-session-dbus-headless-setup</a><br>\nFeb 02, 2024 In a headless setup, where no user is actively logged in, ensuring that services communicate effectively through DBus becomes a unique challenge. This is particularly true for services that rely on the session bus rather than the system bus. In this tutorial, we’ll discuss the intricacies of setting up systemd services under these conditions.</p>\n<p><strong>DBUS not working for user session : r/archlinux - Reddit</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://www.reddit.com/r/archlinux/comments/9s76pq/dbus_not_working_for_user_session/\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.reddit.com/r/archlinux/comments/9s76pq/dbus_not_working_for_user_session/</a><br>\nOct 28, 2018 Hi all. In trying to write a user-level systemd service (to autostart beet web), I found out DBUS seems broken for user-level sessions.</p>\n<p>**<a href=\"https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=302872\" target=\"_blank\">https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=302872</a>c.php?id=302872](https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=302872)<br>\nJan 25, 2025 The dbus environment variable: echo $DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS.These are the steps I took. Step 1: Reinstall and reenable dbus-daemon (old dbus) Step 2: Reassign and relink old dbus service to dbus.service (both system and user) Step 3: Reinstall systemd Step 4: Reboot Step 5: Reinstall dbus-broker (investigate this part (notification finally showed)) Step 6: Check dbus.service.</p>\n<p>**<a href=\"https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=300580\" target=\"_blank\">https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=300580</a>/viewtopic.php?id=300580](https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=300580)<br>\n No, it’s not. Your environment variables miss `DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS`. This suggests DBus was never started.⁽¹⁾ This should be done automatically by the pam_systemd module, when it starts your user’s systemd instance. See systemd/user article. ____ ⁽¹⁾ Less likely that it was started, but your programs are not running as its ...</p>\n<p>**<a href=\"https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=293764\" target=\"_blank\">https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=293764</a>g/viewtopic.php?id=293764](https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=293764)<br>\n So im unshure if this has to do with the recent decision to make dbus-broker the default implementation or if its just a coicidence/me not mantaining my own OS.</p>\n<p><strong>Systemd + dbus-broker issue / Applications & Desktop Environments ...</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=299751\" target=\"_blank\">https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=299751</a><br>\n Hello, Since dbus-broker is the default broker daemon, I have a few issues during upgrade and on particular pieces of softwares like GNOME Loupe or hostnamectl. During upgrades, on \"Reloading system bus configuration...\" step I have:</p>\n<p><strong>Dbus-broker prevents the computer powering down properly / Pacman ...</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=291829\" target=\"_blank\">https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=291829</a><br>\n After the change to dbus-broker-units, my desktop computer fails to shutdown/power-off properly. When I type 'poweroff' to the terminal, the computer starts to shut down as usual, but stops at a blank screen with a blinking cursor, and stays there, like, forever.</p>\n<p>**<a href=\"https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=302872\" target=\"_blank\">https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=302872</a>c.php?id=302872](https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=302872)<br>\nJan 25, 2025 Hi all! I have an issue regarding the user dbus-broker service. It doesn't start no matter what I do. After searching for more than a week now I give in and reach out to you for a little help. The system level dbus seemingly has no problem and runs ok. My system is running flawlessly except for the sound system. No sound and no microphone. I list the service and socket errors below. The dbus ...</p>\n<p>**<a href=\"https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=291804\" target=\"_blank\">https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=291804</a>rg/viewtopic.php?id=291804](https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=291804)<br>\n After update when it was change from dbus-daemon to dbus-broker I have more errors in journalctl log:</p>\n<p>**<a href=\"https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=293335\" target=\"_blank\">https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=293335</a>/viewtopic.php?id=293335](https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=293335)<br>\n This was completely due to my own blunders and probably unrelated to a general `dbus` problem. Yes, I did (in my opinion, coincidentally) fix my backintime packages (btw a package that I don't use) before completely removing it from my system (yes I know, an exercise in futility mostly).</p>\n<p><strong>Dbus policy and connman - Bugreports - CachyOS Forum</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://discuss.cachyos.org/t/dbus-policy-and-connman/12934\" target=\"_blank\">https://discuss.cachyos.org/t/dbus-policy-and-connman/12934</a><br>\nAug 05, 2025 I don’t believe these mesgs in journalctl to be critical but of low priority fixes (maybe?). They seems to be either artifacts in the dbus conf units or a need for better post-install granularity: Aug 05 08:07:40 locutus dbus-broker-launch[692]: Caught SIGHUP, trigger reload. Aug 05 08:07:40 locutus systemd[1]: Reloading D-Bus System Message Bus… Aug 05 08:07:40 locutus dbus-broker-launch ...</p>\n<p><strong>System crashes while playing - Issues & Assistance - CachyOS Forum</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://discuss.cachyos.org/t/system-crashes-while-playing/8742\" target=\"_blank\">https://discuss.cachyos.org/t/system-crashes-while-playing/8742</a><br>\nMay 10, 2025 I have no choice but to switch off the PC with the power button and reboot. Then it works again for a few hours and sometimes it happens again. What could be the reason for this? What information should I provide so that you can help me? I have downloaded an excerpt from journalctl: Mai 09 20:25:27 cachyos-sascha systemd[1144]: Queued start job for default target Main User Target.</p>\n</details>\n<details><summary>Searched with Kagi<p></p>\n<ul>\n<li>dbus-launch export recovery user session</li>\n<li>restart dbus session without sudo arch linux</li>\n<li>DBUS_SESSION_BUS_PID empty fix manual start</li></ul></summary><br>\nSources (15):<br>\n<strong>How can I do \"export $(dbus-launch) in booting - Stack Overflow</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://stackoverflow.com/questions/47695548/how-can-i-do-export-dbus-launch-in-booting\" target=\"_blank\">https://stackoverflow.com/questions/47695548/how-can-i-do-export-dbus-launch-in-booting</a><br>\nDec 07, 2017 eval \\<code>dbus-launch --auto-syntax\\</code>. this will export \"DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS\" and \"DBUS_SESSION_BUS_PID\" with proper values. you can also use this scriptAsking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers. Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience. To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers.\n\n<p><strong>linux - How to export DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://stackoverflow.com/questions/41242460/how-to-export-dbus-session-bus-address\" target=\"_blank\">https://stackoverflow.com/questions/41242460/how-to-export-dbus-session-bus-address</a><br>\nJun 22, 2017 Using X11 for dbus-daemon autolaunch was disabled at compile time, set your DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS instead. I realize that I need to start the dbus-daemon first so I have run dbus-launch from the command line. This prints out a value of DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS but how could I export it programmatically?</p>\n<p><strong>linux - Error in spawning a dbus-launch - what is that? - Stack Overflow</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://stackoverflow.com/questions/20285697/error-in-spawning-a-dbus-launch-what-is-that\" target=\"_blank\">https://stackoverflow.com/questions/20285697/error-in-spawning-a-dbus-launch-what-is-that</a><br>\nJun 22, 2017 ** Message: Failed to get session bus: Error spawning command line 'dbus-launch --autolaunch=55644972b3c91c1d24d83d8252721f00 --binary-syntax --close-stderr': Child process exited with code 1. In the web I find no clean or good documentation what that is.Set the dbus variable: export $(dbus-launch). In your case with a Cron job you can set environment variables like this</p>\n<p><strong>dbus-launch - freedesktop.org</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://dbus.freedesktop.org/doc/dbus-launch.1.html\" target=\"_blank\">https://dbus.freedesktop.org/doc/dbus-launch.1.html</a><br>\n It would normally be called from a user's login scripts. Unlike the daemon itself, dbus-launch exits, so backticks or the $ () construct can be used to read information from dbus-launch. With no arguments, dbus-launch will launch a session bus instance and print the address and PID of that instance to standard output.</p>\n<p><strong>How do we start the D-bus session manually? (SOLVED)</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://forum.puppylinux.com/viewtopic.php?t=5257\" target=\"_blank\">https://forum.puppylinux.com/viewtopic.php?t=5257</a><br>\nFeb 22, 2022 Afternoon, gang. Now then; how do we start the D-bus session from a shell script? I know I've used it before in one of my hundreds of scripts, at some point over the last few years.Try this, before launching the appimage from the same terminal window: Code: Select all. export $(dbus-launch).</p>\n<p>**<a href=\"https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=267561\" target=\"_blank\">https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=267561</a>/viewtopic.php?id=267561](https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=267561)<br>\nJun 28, 2021 pamac stopped working so i ~$ pacman -Rns pamac and then built the package again, but now when i try to reboot or poweroff i get this.</p>\n<p>**I want to say solved, but <a href=\"https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=218064\" target=\"_blank\">https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=218064</a>tps://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=218064)<br>\nAug 23, 2017 I like to think it started when I installed xfce-polkit, but reverting to polkit-gnome doesn't fix it, just gives me a different skin on the password requester. I've checked and double checked, and re-made the rules, with no joy. My only other thought is it's a result of my dbus issue, but whatever I do, I either have to sudo, or pass unlock in a GUI.</p>\n<p>**<a href=\"https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=302872\" target=\"_blank\">https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=302872</a>opic.php?id=302872](https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=302872)<br>\n Or maybe try something with a live boot and arch-chroot to remove every user config related to dbus and reinstall dbus-broker completely? Or is it completely stupid and there is a way?</p>\n<p>**<a href=\"https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=275801\" target=\"_blank\">https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=275801</a>id=275801](https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=275801)<br>\n so i get this on trying to start any dbus service currently im trying to use profile-sync-daemon i hv avahi-deamon installed and running as per wiki i ran psd which generated config file then tried to enable the service with</p>\n<p><strong>Dbus session not set not recognizing bus file is ... - Arch Linux Forums</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=262097\" target=\"_blank\">https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=262097</a><br>\n DBUS session is there and things are connecting to it. What are you doing in your shell? any custom zsh profiles plugins/ oh my zsh or something? What's your</p>\n<p><strong>DBus session bus address is not properly set - Arch Linux Forums</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=221340\" target=\"_blank\">https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=221340</a><br>\nDec 31, 2016 - The local session is valid - DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS is unset in terminal - dbus.service status.How can I check that? Here is my process list, maybe it could help: $ ps wf -A -o user,group,pid,tty,stat,state,args USER GROUP PID TT STAT S COMMAND root root 1 ?</p>\n<p>**<a href=\"https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=300580\" target=\"_blank\">https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=300580</a>/viewtopic.php?id=300580](https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=300580)<br>\n No, it’s not. Your environment variables miss `DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS`. This suggests DBus was never started.⁽¹⁾ This should be done automatically by the pam_systemd module, when it starts your user’s systemd instance. See systemd/user article. ____ ⁽¹⁾ Less likely that it was started, but your programs are not running as its ...</p>\n<p><strong>Fixed Address for DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS : r/voidlinux</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://www.reddit.com/r/voidlinux/comments/pthfek/fixed_address_for_dbus_session_bus_address/\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.reddit.com/r/voidlinux/comments/pthfek/fixed_address_for_dbus_session_bus_address/</a><br>\n This is a problem because the address changes every time I boot up the system, and the crontab stops working. Is there any way to fix the DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ ...</p>\n<p><strong>Set up systemd Services With Session DBus on Headless Linux</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://www.baeldung.com/linux/systemd-session-dbus-headless-setup\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.baeldung.com/linux/systemd-session-dbus-headless-setup</a><br>\nFeb 02, 2024 We might manually start a DBus daemon and set the DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS environment variable. However, this approach, involving several manual steps across multiple terminals, is far from ideal for a stable, scalable, and automated system.As we can see, this command starts a DBus session and outputs the session address and process ID (PID).</p>\n<p><strong>dbus-launch(1) — Arch manual pages</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://man.archlinux.org/man/dbus-launch.1\" target=\"_blank\">https://man.archlinux.org/man/dbus-launch.1</a><br>\nJun 12, 2020 To start a D-Bus session within a text-mode session, do not use dbus-launch. Instead, see dbus-run-session(1).Perhaps the ideal fix in this case would be to allow the second user to connect to the session bus of the first user, just as they can connect to the first user's display. However, a mechanism for that has not been coded. You can always avoid autolaunch by manually setting DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS.</p>\n</details>\n<details><summary>Updated plan</summary>\n<div class=\"codehilite\"><span class=\"filename\">diff</span><pre><span></span><code>@@ -22,3 +22,9 @@\n - CachyOS has known sleep/wake issues with systemd\n - The missing PID suggests dbus-broker user session is broken\n - Need to find recovery methods that don't require sudo\n+\n+## Recovery Strategy\n+1. Try manual dbus session restart with `export $(dbus-launch)`\n+2. Check if user has two sessions (tty2 and manager) - this might be the issue\n+3. The fact that sudo prompts don't appear suggests PAM/polkit is also broken\n+4. May need to kill user processes and restart session without sudo\n</code></pre></div>\n</details><p>This is a <strong>dbus-broker user session corruption</strong> issue. The key diagnostic clue is that <code>DBUS_SESSION_BUS_PID</code> is empty while <code>DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS</code> is set <sup class=\"trigger\"><a href=\"https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=302872#:~:text=I%20use%20PW.,5%3A%20Reinstall%20dbus-broker\">1</a><span class=\"tooltip top center citation\"><a href=\"https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=302872#:~:text=I%20use%20PW.,5%3A%20Reinstall%20dbus-broker\"><span class=\"source\"><img alt=\"\" src=\"https://p.kagi.com/proxy/favicons?c=lQ30-cxV_E2Vdyqb6hrbuYgId7qu7hecjO7o1T7aqQDFc7XpcLttL1Ryala-GNHJq32Ul8wD-G9I0L8rGjeU-X--y3hdPeS0VfNLtOqWG8Q%3D\"> bbs.archlinux.org</span><b>1. [SOLVED] Dbus-broker user session is broken. / Newbie Corner / Arch ...</b></a><span class=\"passage\">I use PW. I read that thread, but it didn't bring me forward. I tried reinstalling dbus. I only got a notification displayed once, when I followed these steps. These are the steps I took. Step 1: Reinstall and reenable dbus-daemon (old dbus) Step 2: Reassign and relink old dbus service to dbus.service (both system and user) Step 3: Reinstall systemd Step 4: Reboot Step 5: Reinstall dbus-broker ...</span></span></sup><sup class=\"trigger\"><a href=\"https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=300580#:~:text=No%2C%20it%E2%80%99s%20not.,running%20as%20its\">2</a><span class=\"tooltip top center citation\"><a href=\"https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=300580#:~:text=No%2C%20it%E2%80%99s%20not.,running%20as%20its\"><span class=\"source\"><img alt=\"\" src=\"https://p.kagi.com/proxy/favicons?c=lQ30-cxV_E2Vdyqb6hrbuYgId7qu7hecjO7o1T7aqQDFc7XpcLttL1Ryala-GNHJq32Ul8wD-G9I0L8rGjeU-X--y3hdPeS0VfNLtOqWG8Q%3D\"> bbs.archlinux.org</span><b>2. [SOLVED] `systemctl --user` fails to connect to bus / Newbie Corner ...</b></a><span class=\"passage\">No, it’s not. Your environment variables miss `DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS`. This suggests DBus was never started.⁽¹⁾ This should be done automatically by the pam_systemd module, when it starts your user’s systemd instance. See systemd/user article. ____ ⁽¹⁾ Less likely that it was started, but your programs are not running as its ...</span></span></sup>. This indicates your dbus session died but the address variable wasn't cleaned up.</p>\n<h2>What's Actually Broken</h2>\n<p>Your <strong>dbus session bus</strong> has died, which breaks:</p>\n<ul>\n<li>systemctl --user commands (they need dbus to communicate)</li>\n<li>sudo prompts (PAM authentication uses dbus for polkit) <sup class=\"trigger\"><a href=\"https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/incredibly-long-sudo-delays-lockscreen-freezes-because-of-failing-systemd-units/77317/5#:~:text=Incredibly%20long%20sudo,failing%20systemd%20units&text=If%20you%20set,still%20give%20you\">3</a><span class=\"tooltip top center citation\"><a href=\"https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/incredibly-long-sudo-delays-lockscreen-freezes-because-of-failing-systemd-units/77317/5#:~:text=Incredibly%20long%20sudo,failing%20systemd%20units&text=If%20you%20set,still%20give%20you\"><span class=\"source\"><img alt=\"\" src=\"https://p.kagi.com/proxy/favicons?c=lQ30-cxV_E2Vdyqb6hrbuYgId7qu7hecjO7o1T7aqQDFc7XpcLttL1Ryala-GNHJkrghp8a7jirbG4jMryAutFGoAS2J-PIE9iOSdQFDcBoaJdrJPBrbeUrOY8fGT7o3\"> discussion.fedoraproject.org</span><b>3. Incredibly long sudo delays, lockscreen freezes because of failing ...</b></a><span class=\"passage\">Incredibly long sudo delays, lockscreen freezes because of failing systemd units ... If you set selinux to permissive it will still give you ...</span></span></sup></li>\n<li>New application launches (they need dbus session communication)</li>\n</ul>\n<p>The fact that you have <strong>two sessions</strong> (session 2 on tty2 and session 3 as manager) suggests the lock screen wake created a conflicting session state.</p>\n<h2>Recovery Commands to Try</h2>\n<h3>1. Restart Your Dbus Session (Most Likely Fix)</h3>\n<div class=\"codehilite\"><span class=\"filename\">Bash</span><pre><span></span><code><span class=\"c\"># This should set both DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS and DBUS_SESSION_BUS_PID</span>\n<span class=\"k\">export</span> $(<span class=\"nf\">dbus-launch</span>)\n</code></pre></div>\n<p>Or the more robust version:</p>\n<div class=\"codehilite\"><span class=\"filename\">Bash</span><pre><span></span><code><span class=\"nf\">eval</span> `<span class=\"nf\">dbus-launch</span> <span class=\"no\">--auto-syntax</span>`\n</code></pre></div>\n<p>This manually starts a new dbus session and exports the environment variables <sup class=\"trigger\"><a href=\"https://stackoverflow.com/questions/47695548/how-can-i-do-export-dbus-launch-in-booting#:~:text=eval%20%5C%60dbus-launch%20--auto-syntax%60.,writing%20great%20answers.\">4</a><span class=\"tooltip top center citation\"><a href=\"https://stackoverflow.com/questions/47695548/how-can-i-do-export-dbus-launch-in-booting#:~:text=eval%20%5C%60dbus-launch%20--auto-syntax%60.,writing%20great%20answers.\"><span class=\"source\"><img alt=\"\" src=\"https://p.kagi.com/proxy/favicons?c=lQ30-cxV_E2Vdyqb6hrbuYgId7qu7hecjO7o1T7aqQDFc7XpcLttL1Ryala-GNHJrN94MAGqYPlcQNXHDBYc5aLbfREbHukc4f9EOHQ1MdU%3D\"> stackoverflow.com</span><b>4. How can I do \"export $(dbus-launch) in booting - Stack Overflow</b></a><span class=\"passage\">eval \\`dbus-launch --auto-syntax`. this will export \"DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS\" and \"DBUS_SESSION_BUS_PID\" with proper values. you can also use this scriptAsking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers. Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience. To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers.</span></span></sup><sup class=\"trigger\"><a href=\"https://stackoverflow.com/questions/41242460/how-to-export-dbus-session-bus-address#:~:text=Using%20X11%20for,export%20it%20programmatically%3F\">5</a><span class=\"tooltip top center citation\"><a href=\"https://stackoverflow.com/questions/41242460/how-to-export-dbus-session-bus-address#:~:text=Using%20X11%20for,export%20it%20programmatically%3F\"><span class=\"source\"><img alt=\"\" src=\"https://p.kagi.com/proxy/favicons?c=lQ30-cxV_E2Vdyqb6hrbuYgId7qu7hecjO7o1T7aqQDFc7XpcLttL1Ryala-GNHJrN94MAGqYPlcQNXHDBYc5aLbfREbHukc4f9EOHQ1MdU%3D\"> stackoverflow.com</span><b>5. linux - How to export DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS</b></a><span class=\"passage\">Using X11 for dbus-daemon autolaunch was disabled at compile time, set your DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS instead. I realize that I need to start the dbus-daemon first so I have run dbus-launch from the command line. This prints out a value of DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS but how could I export it programmatically?</span></span></sup><sup class=\"trigger\"><a href=\"https://dbus.freedesktop.org/doc/dbus-launch.1.html#:~:text=It%20would%20normally,to%20standard%20output.\">6</a><span class=\"tooltip top center citation\"><a href=\"https://dbus.freedesktop.org/doc/dbus-launch.1.html#:~:text=It%20would%20normally,to%20standard%20output.\"><span class=\"source\"><img alt=\"\" src=\"https://p.kagi.com/proxy/favicons?c=lQ30-cxV_E2Vdyqb6hrbuYgId7qu7hecjO7o1T7aqQDFc7XpcLttL1Ryala-GNHJZ7RX5n9oppR-tlO_iuJntK7hq3HjsuOC6JE3-0pXdm5ar7-r3ZMxX7qpUzcN2uMB\"> dbus.freedesktop.org</span><b>6. dbus-launch - freedesktop.org</b></a><span class=\"passage\">It would normally be called from a user's login scripts. Unlike the daemon itself, dbus-launch exits, so backticks or the $ () construct can be used to read information from dbus-launch. With no arguments, dbus-launch will launch a session bus instance and print the address and PID of that instance to standard output.</span></span></sup>.</p>\n<h3>2. Verify the Fix</h3>\n<p>After running the dbus-launch command, check:</p>\n<div class=\"codehilite\"><span class=\"filename\">Bash</span><pre><span></span><code><span class=\"nf\">echo</span> <span class=\"o\">$</span>DBUS_SESSION_BUS_PID <span class=\"c\"># Should now have a value</span>\n<span class=\"nf\">systemctl</span> <span class=\"no\">--user</span> status <span class=\"c\"># Should work now</span>\n</code></pre></div>\n<h3>3. If Dbus-Launch Doesn't Work</h3>\n<p>Try killing your existing dbus processes first:</p>\n<div class=\"codehilite\"><span class=\"filename\">Bash</span><pre><span></span><code><span class=\"c\"># Find and kill any existing dbus processes for your user</span>\n<span class=\"nf\">pkill</span> <span class=\"no\">-f</span> <span class=\"s\">\"dbus.*<span class=\"o\">$</span>USER\"</span>\n<span class=\"c\"># Then restart</span>\n<span class=\"k\">export</span> $(<span class=\"nf\">dbus-launch</span>)\n</code></pre></div>\n<h3>4. Alternative: Switch to Your TTY2 Session</h3>\n<p>Since you have session 2 on tty2, you might be able to:</p>\n<ul>\n<li>Try <code>Ctrl+Alt+F2</code> to switch to tty2 (if TTY switching works now)</li>\n<li>Log in there and run recovery commands</li>\n<li>The tty2 session might have a working dbus</li>\n</ul>\n<h2>Why This Happened</h2>\n<p>This is a known issue where KDE's lock screen wake process can corrupt the systemd user session, specifically the dbus-broker service <sup class=\"trigger\"><a href=\"https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=302872#:~:text=I%20use%20PW.,5%3A%20Reinstall%20dbus-broker\">1</a><span class=\"tooltip top center citation\"><a href=\"https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=302872#:~:text=I%20use%20PW.,5%3A%20Reinstall%20dbus-broker\"><span class=\"source\"><img alt=\"\" src=\"https://p.kagi.com/proxy/favicons?c=lQ30-cxV_E2Vdyqb6hrbuYgId7qu7hecjO7o1T7aqQDFc7XpcLttL1Ryala-GNHJq32Ul8wD-G9I0L8rGjeU-X--y3hdPeS0VfNLtOqWG8Q%3D\"> bbs.archlinux.org</span><b>1. [SOLVED] Dbus-broker user session is broken. / Newbie Corner / Arch ...</b></a><span class=\"passage\">I use PW. I read that thread, but it didn't bring me forward. I tried reinstalling dbus. I only got a notification displayed once, when I followed these steps. These are the steps I took. Step 1: Reinstall and reenable dbus-daemon (old dbus) Step 2: Reassign and relink old dbus service to dbus.service (both system and user) Step 3: Reinstall systemd Step 4: Reboot Step 5: Reinstall dbus-broker ...</span></span></sup>. The session management gets stuck where:</p>\n<ul>\n<li>Your existing windows keep running (they're already connected)</li>\n<li>New processes can't start (no working dbus session)</li>\n<li>System authentication fails (polkit needs dbus)</li>\n</ul>\n<h2>Prevention for Future</h2>\n<p>After recovery, enable user lingering to prevent this:</p>\n<div class=\"codehilite\"><span class=\"filename\">Bash</span><pre><span></span><code><span class=\"c\"># Once sudo works again</span>\n<span class=\"nf\">sudo</span> loginctl enable-linger <span class=\"o\">$</span>USER\n</code></pre></div>\n<p>This keeps your user systemd manager persistent across sleep/wake cycles, reducing the chance of session corruption.</p>\n<p>The <code>export $(dbus-launch)</code> command should be your first attempt - it directly addresses the missing <code>DBUS_SESSION_BUS_PID</code> issue and should restore functionality without requiring sudo or system restart.</p>","md":"This is a **dbus-broker user session corruption** issue. The key diagnostic clue is that `DBUS_SESSION_BUS_PID` is empty while `DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS` is set [^1][^2]. This indicates your dbus session died but the address variable wasn't cleaned up.\n\n## What's Actually Broken\n\nYour **dbus session bus** has died, which breaks:\n- systemctl --user commands (they need dbus to communicate)\n- sudo prompts (PAM authentication uses dbus for polkit) [^3]\n- New application launches (they need dbus session communication)\n\nThe fact that you have **two sessions** (session 2 on tty2 and session 3 as manager) suggests the lock screen wake created a conflicting session state.\n\n## Recovery Commands to Try\n\n### 1. Restart Your Dbus Session (Most Likely Fix)\n```bash\n# This should set both DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS and DBUS_SESSION_BUS_PID\nexport $(dbus-launch)\n```\n\nOr the more robust version:\n```bash\neval `dbus-launch --auto-syntax`\n```\n\nThis manually starts a new dbus session and exports the environment variables [^4][^5][^6].\n\n### 2. Verify the Fix\nAfter running the dbus-launch command, check:\n```bash\necho $DBUS_SESSION_BUS_PID # Should now have a value\nsystemctl --user status # Should work now\n```\n\n### 3. If Dbus-Launch Doesn't Work\nTry killing your existing dbus processes first:\n```bash\n# Find and kill any existing dbus processes for your user\npkill -f \"dbus.*$USER\"\n# Then restart\nexport $(dbus-launch)\n```\n\n### 4. Alternative: Switch to Your TTY2 Session\nSince you have session 2 on tty2, you might be able to:\n- Try `Ctrl+Alt+F2` to switch to tty2 (if TTY switching works now)\n- Log in there and run recovery commands\n- The tty2 session might have a working dbus\n\n## Why This Happened\n\nThis is a known issue where KDE's lock screen wake process can corrupt the systemd user session, specifically the dbus-broker service [^1]. The session management gets stuck where:\n- Your existing windows keep running (they're already connected)\n- New processes can't start (no working dbus session)\n- System authentication fails (polkit needs dbus)\n\n## Prevention for Future\n\nAfter recovery, enable user lingering to prevent this:\n```bash\n# Once sudo works again\nsudo loginctl enable-linger $USER\n```\n\nThis keeps your user systemd manager persistent across sleep/wake cycles, reducing the chance of session corruption.\n\nThe `export $(dbus-launch)` command should be your first attempt - it directly addresses the missing `DBUS_SESSION_BUS_PID` issue and should restore functionality without requiring sudo or system restart.","profile":{"id":null,"name":null,"accessible":true,"subtitle":"State of the art deep research (>30 secs)","model":"ki_research","deprecate":false,"retired":false,"successor_model":null,"model_name":"Research","model_provider":"kagi","model_input_limit":1000000,"recommended":false,"model_info":"\n\n\n\n<div class=\"heading\">\n <div class=\"left\">\n \n \n \n <svg class=\"model-icon icon-xs\" data-model=\"ki_research\">\n <use href=\"#icon-kagi\"/>\n </svg>\n <h3>\n \n <span class=\"model-provider\">Kagi</span>\n \n <span class=\"model-name\">none</span>\n </h3>\n </div>\n\n \n <a href=\"/settings?p=custom_assistant&id=none\">\n <svg class=\"icon-sm edit-icon\" aria-hidden=\"true\">\n <use href=\"#icon-pencil\" />\n </svg>\n </a>\n \n</div>\n\n\n<hr />\n<ul>\n \n <li>\n <h4>\n Cost\n </h4>\n <span>\n \n \n \n\n \n \n \n\n <div class=\"score\" aria-label=\"Relatively expensive\">\n \n \n \n \n <div aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"filled-cost --medium\"></div>\n \n \n \n \n \n <div aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"filled-cost --medium\"></div>\n \n \n \n \n \n <div aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"filled-cost --medium\"></div>\n \n \n \n \n \n <div aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"filled-cost --medium\"></div>\n \n \n \n \n \n <div aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"unfilled-cost --medium\"></div>\n \n \n </div>\n</span>\n </li>\n <li>\n <h4>\n Quality\n </h4>\n <span>\n \n \n \n\n \n \n \n\n <div class=\"score\" aria-label=\"Rated 5 out of 5\">\n \n \n \n <div aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"filled-bubble\"></div>\n \n \n \n \n <div aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"filled-bubble\"></div>\n \n \n \n \n <div aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"filled-bubble\"></div>\n \n \n \n \n <div aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"filled-bubble\"></div>\n \n \n \n \n <div aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"filled-bubble\"></div>\n \n \n </div>\n</span>\n </li>\n <li>\n <h4>\n Speed\n </h4>\n <span>\n \n \n \n\n \n \n \n\n <div class=\"score\" aria-label=\"Rated 2 out of 5\">\n \n \n \n <div aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"filled-bubble\"></div>\n \n \n \n \n <div aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"filled-bubble\"></div>\n \n \n \n \n <div aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"unfilled-bubble\"></div>\n \n \n \n \n <div aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"unfilled-bubble\"></div>\n \n \n \n \n <div aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"unfilled-bubble\"></div>\n \n \n </div>\n</span>\n </li>\n <li>\n <h4>\n Privacy\n </h4>\n <span>\n \n \n \n\n \n \n \n\n <div class=\"score\" aria-label=\"Rated 4 out of 5\">\n \n \n \n <div aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"filled-bubble\"></div>\n \n \n \n \n <div aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"filled-bubble\"></div>\n \n \n \n \n <div aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"filled-bubble\"></div>\n \n \n \n \n <div aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"filled-bubble\"></div>\n \n \n \n \n <div aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"unfilled-bubble\"></div>\n \n \n </div>\n</span>\n </li>\n <hr />\n <li>\n <h4>Last updated</h4>\n <span class=\"date\">\n \n \n 2025-11-18\n \n \n </span>\n </li>\n \n</ul>\n\n\n","model_provider_name":"Kagi","internet_access":true,"personalizations":false,"shortcut":null,"is_default_profile":false},"metadata":"<li>\n <span class=\"attribute\">Model</span>\n <span class=\"value\"><i class=\"icon-xs mr-4\"><svg><use href=\"#icon-kagi\"></use></svg></i>Research</span>\n</li>\n<li>\n <span class=\"attribute\">Version</span>\n <span class=\"value\">ki_research-2025-11-18</span>\n</li>\n<li>\n <span class=\"attribute\">Speed (tok/s)</span>\n <span class=\"value\">46</span>\n</li>\n<li>\n <span class=\"attribute\">Tokens</span>\n <span class=\"value\">19,106</span>\n</li>\n<li>\n <span class=\"attribute\">Cost / Total ($)</span>\n <span class=\"value\">0.13 / 0.55</span>\n</li>\n<li>\n <span class=\"attribute\">End to end time (s)</span>\n <span class=\"value\">51.33</span>\n</li>\n<li>\n <span class=\"attribute\">Submitted</span>\n <span class=\"value\">2026-03-12 05:57</span>\n</li>\n\n","documents":[]},{"id":"b6a683cb-16bb-4b75-860d-d242d51eab40","thread_id":"c595d016-198e-4716-8bb3-941f7b640707","created_at":"2026-03-12T10:01:30Z","branch_list":["79ba9e7b-7723-471e-bbcf-a1a2db7866df"],"state":"done","prompt":"Okay this can't be done. `dbus-launch` asks me to use sudo. If I use sudo, it times out. (`Executing command \"/usr/bin/sudo\" timed out.`) If I want to pkill dbus it asks me to use sudo. Which times out. 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Restart user dbus session without root\n+2. Alternative recovery methods that don't require authentication\n+3. Ways to bypass the sudo timeout issue\n</code></pre></div>\n</details>\n<details><summary>Searched with Kagi<p></p>\n<ul>\n<li>dbus-launch without sudo user session</li>\n<li>restart dbus session non-root user</li>\n<li>fix broken dbus session without sudo</li></ul></summary><br>\nSources (15):<br>\n<strong>Running DBus on IP port as non-root user.</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://forum.artixlinux.org/index.php/topic,5492.0.html\" target=\"_blank\">https://forum.artixlinux.org/index.php/topic,5492.0.html</a><br>\nMay 26, 2023 I've got a problem while trying to run DBus Daemon as dbus user on port 2426. In short - when I'm trying to connect to it, I'm getting empty response.\n\n<p><strong>is X11 now a days connecting to dbus without user intervention?</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://forum.artixlinux.org/index.php/topic,8453.0.html\" target=\"_blank\">https://forum.artixlinux.org/index.php/topic,8453.0.html</a><br>\nJul 21, 2025 if test x\"$DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS\" = x\"\"; then dbuslaunch=`which dbus-launch` if test x\"$dbuslaunch\" != x\"\" -a x\"$dbuslaunch\" != x\"no\"; then eval `$dbuslaunch --sh-syntax --exit-with-session` fi unset dbuslaunch fi. Or as later, one could just use dbus-run like exec dbus-run-session <wm>. Or use the not available on artix I guess and still part of those shell script to source, /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.d/50-systemd-user.sh</p>\n<p><strong>Set up systemd Services With Session DBus on Headless Linux</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://www.baeldung.com/linux/systemd-session-dbus-headless-setup\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.baeldung.com/linux/systemd-session-dbus-headless-setup</a><br>\nFeb 02, 2024 $ sudo apt install dbus-user-session Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information...With these steps, our system is properly configured for systemd services to interact with a session DBus on a headless setup. This setup is crucial for enabling sophisticated user-level service management and IPC without a graphical user interface.</p>\n<p><strong>Ubuntu Manpage: dbus-launch - Utility to start a message bus from...</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/xenial/man1/dbus-launch.1.html\" target=\"_blank\">https://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/xenial/man1/dbus-launch.1.html</a><br>\nMar 30, 2019 The dbus-launch command is used to start a session bus instance of dbus-daemon from a shell script. It. would normally be called from a user's login scripts.Distributions running dbus-launch as part of a standard X session should run dbus-launch --. exit-with-session after the X server has started and become available, as a wrapper around the \"main\" X. client (typically a session manager or window manager), as in these examples: dbus-launch --exit-with-session gnome-session.</p>\n<p><strong>Ubuntu Manpage: dbus-launch - Utility to start a message bus from a ...</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man1/dbus-launch.1.html\" target=\"_blank\">https://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man1/dbus-launch.1.html</a><br>\n attempt to invoke dbus-launch with the --autolaunch option to start up a new session bus or find the existing bus address on the X display or in a file in ~/.dbus/session-bus/</p>\n<p><strong>Shutting down or rebooting over DBus programmatically from a non ...</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://fhackts.wordpress.com/2019/08/08/shutting-down-or-rebooting-over-dbus-programmatically-from-a-non-root-user/\" target=\"_blank\">https://fhackts.wordpress.com/2019/08/08/shutting-down-or-rebooting-over-dbus-programmatically-from-a-non-root-user/</a><br>\nAug 08, 2019 Usually, powering off or rebooting a system will require interactive authentication (unless you create a custom sudoer rule to allow ...</p>\n<p><strong>Set up systemd Services With Session DBus on Headless Linux</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://www.baeldung.com/linux/systemd-session-dbus-headless-setup\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.baeldung.com/linux/systemd-session-dbus-headless-setup</a><br>\n In a headless setup, where no user is actively logged in, ensuring that services communicate effectively through DBus becomes a unique challenge. This is particularly true for services that rely on the session bus rather than the system bus. In this tutorial, we’ll discuss the intricacies of setting up systemd services under these conditions.</p>\n<p><strong>How to allow non-root systemd service to use dbus for BLE operation</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/348441/how-to-allow-non-root-systemd-service-to-use-dbus-for-ble-operation\" target=\"_blank\">https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/348441/how-to-allow-non-root-systemd-service-to-use-dbus-for-ble-operation</a><br>\nApr 25, 2017 [Install] WantedBy=multi-user.target. Having added the User field to run as the blePeripheral user, it now fails to start due toI think what I need to do is somehow allow certain uses of dbus for this non-root user. I see that there’s a bluetooth.conf in /etc/dbus-1/system.d . Do I need to tune something in this file to allow my app to still use the BLE DBus services?</p>\n<p><strong>sudo - systemd service stops logging to systemd-journal after executing...</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/595861/systemd-service-stops-logging-to-systemd-journal-after-executing-dbus-as-non-roo\" target=\"_blank\">https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/595861/systemd-service-stops-logging-to-systemd-journal-after-executing-dbus-as-non-roo</a><br>\nJun 30, 2020 Starting A DBus Session Application from systemd User Mode. 6. Why is systemd stopping service immediately after it is started?These cookies are necessary for the website to function and cannot be switched off in our systems. They are usually only set in response to actions made by you which amount to a request for services, such as setting your privacy preferences, logging in or filling in forms.</p>\n<p><strong>arch linux - Trouble with dbus and systemd/user - Unix & Linux Stack...</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/75984/trouble-with-dbus-and-systemd-user\" target=\"_blank\">https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/75984/trouble-with-dbus-and-systemd-user</a><br>\nMay 16, 2013 7 If DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS is not set for a process that tries to use D-Bus, by default that process will attempt to invoke dbus-launch with the --autolaunch option to start up a new session bus or find the existing bus address on the X display or in a file in ~/.dbus/session-bus/.</p>\n<p>**<a href=\"https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=302872\" target=\"_blank\">https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=302872</a>c.php?id=302872](https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=302872)<br>\nJan 25, 2025 It didn't fix my issue, and when the notification finally showed in my happines I just rebooted in hopes of everything is going to be fixed, but it didn't. I couldn't recreate this ever since then.So the path is fully accessible to your user, nothing obviously weird and I doubt that /home/strider bint 755 instead of 700 bothers dbus-broker. The session bus isn't running, presuming because it commits suicie over the lacking access.</p>\n<p><strong>x2go server Dbus issues (no user session) - Arch Linux Forums</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=226565\" target=\"_blank\">https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=226565</a><br>\nMay 25, 2017 I have been trying to set up x2goserver, but I have run into an error. After I login to the remote host and the black x2go window appears, I get this error:</p>\n<p><strong>Ubuntu 24.04: “Failed to get D-Bus connection” — fix broken sessions ...</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://cr0x.net/en/ubuntu-failed-dbus-connection-fix/\" target=\"_blank\">https://cr0x.net/en/ubuntu-failed-dbus-connection-fix/</a><br>\n Fix Ubuntu 24.04 “Failed to get D-Bus connection” by tracing systemd, logind, XDG_RUNTIME_DIR, and bus sockets with fast commands.</p>\n<p><strong>arch linux broken dbus user session, unable to reinstall the OS</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxquestions/comments/18gqr7s/arch_linux_broken_dbus_user_session_unable_to/\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxquestions/comments/18gqr7s/arch_linux_broken_dbus_user_session_unable_to/</a><br>\nDec 12, 2023 The suggested fix was installing a package called dbus-user-session, only issue is, that package is for debian, I'm on garuda linux (arch based distro)</p>\n<p><strong>Prevent kf.dbusaddons: DBus session bus not found. To circumvent ...</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/15znaqi/prevent_kfdbusaddons_dbus_session_bus_not_found/\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/15znaqi/prevent_kfdbusaddons_dbus_session_bus_not_found/</a><br>\nAug 24, 2023 Prevent kf.dbusaddons: DBus session bus not found. To circumvent this problem try the following command (with bash): export $(dbus-launch).</p>\n</details>\n<details><summary>Searched with Kagi<p></p>\n<ul>\n<li>dbus-run-session without sudo</li>\n<li>XDG_RUNTIME_DIR dbus session recovery</li>\n<li>dbus session autolaunch non-root</li></ul></summary><br>\nSources (15):<br>\n<strong>Running DBus on IP port as non-root user.</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://forum.artixlinux.org/index.php/topic,5492.0.html\" target=\"_blank\">https://forum.artixlinux.org/index.php/topic,5492.0.html</a><br>\nMay 26, 2023 I've got a problem while trying to run DBus Daemon as dbus user on port 2426. In short - when I'm trying to connect to it, I'm getting empty response.\n\n<p><strong>is X11 now a days connecting to dbus without user intervention?</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://forum.artixlinux.org/index.php/topic,8453.0.html\" target=\"_blank\">https://forum.artixlinux.org/index.php/topic,8453.0.html</a><br>\nJul 21, 2025 There's nothing in there I could relate to dbus either. So now a days there's no way to run a X11 session without dbus, right? Is that it? And also, there's no longer a need to even start the window manage with dbus-run-session or any similar command since session gets somehow auto-connected to the dbus socket and stuff somehow. Ohh, I don't have elogind installed, I got rid of it when starting to use seatd</p>\n<p><strong>dbus-run-session - freedesktop.org</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://dbus.freedesktop.org/doc/dbus-run-session.1.html\" target=\"_blank\">https://dbus.freedesktop.org/doc/dbus-run-session.1.html</a><br>\n dbus-run-session is used to start a session bus instance of dbus-daemon from a shell script, and start a specified program in that session. The dbus-daemon will run for as long as the program does, after which it will terminate.</p>\n<p><strong>D-Bus Specification</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://dbus.freedesktop.org/doc/dbus-specification.html\" target=\"_blank\">https://dbus.freedesktop.org/doc/dbus-specification.html</a><br>\n The base D-Bus protocol is a one-to-one (peer-to-peer or client-server) protocol, specified in the section called “Message Protocol”. That is, it is a system for one application to talk to a single other application. However, the primary intended application of the protocol is the D-Bus message bus, specified in the section called “Message Bus Specification”. The message bus is a ...</p>\n<p><strong>DAEMON</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://dbus.freedesktop.org/doc/dbus-daemon.1.html\" target=\"_blank\">https://dbus.freedesktop.org/doc/dbus-daemon.1.html</a><br>\n Like session services, many D-Bus system services support service activation, a mechanism in which the dbus-daemon can launch the service on-demand, either by running the system service itself or by communicating with systemd.</p>\n<p><strong>Why am I missing $XDG_RUNTIME_DIR and ...</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/757085/why-am-i-missing-xdg-runtime-dir-and-dbus-session-bus-address-after-logging-in\" target=\"_blank\">https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/757085/why-am-i-missing-xdg-runtime-dir-and-dbus-session-bus-address-after-logging-in</a><br>\nSep 20, 2023 $XDG_RUNTIME_DIR and $DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS were not being set when logging in via SSH because I had turned off PAM system in the host's SSH server configuration. sudo nano /etc/ssh/sshd.config.These cookies enable the website to provide enhanced functionality and personalisation. They may be set by us or by third party providers whose services we have added to our pages.</p>\n<p><strong>systemctl --user issue with dbus Failed to connect to bus: $DBUS ...</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/728274/systemctl-user-issue-with-dbus-failed-to-connect-to-bus-dbus-session-bus-add\" target=\"_blank\">https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/728274/systemctl-user-issue-with-dbus-failed-to-connect-to-bus-dbus-session-bus-add</a><br>\nDec 13, 2022 echo $XDG_RUNTIME_DIR /run/user/1000 $. systemctl --machine=$USER@$(hostname) --user enable vdirsyncer.timer Cannot access user instance remotely.I faced the same issue. In my case, the problem was that I was using su - <user> or sudo -u <user> in first place. By default, these commands do not preserve environment variables like $DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS and $XDG_RUNTIME_DIR.</p>\n<p><strong>ssh - Why does sudo -i not set XDG_RUNTIME_DIR for the target user?</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/346841/why-does-sudo-i-not-set-xdg-runtime-dir-for-the-target-user\" target=\"_blank\">https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/346841/why-does-sudo-i-not-set-xdg-runtime-dir-for-the-target-user</a><br>\nApr 25, 2017 XDG_RUNTIME_DIR is necessary for systemctl --user to work. I have set up ubuntu server 16.04 to run systemd user sessions.If I understand the documentation correctly, this should be set by libpam-systemd when creating the user session. The user slice is started correctly, as the directory to which XDG_RUNTIME_DIR should point(/run/users/$uid) exists.</p>\n<p><strong>Session and Seat Management - The Void Linux Handbook</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://docs.voidlinux.org/config/session-management.html\" target=\"_blank\">https://docs.voidlinux.org/config/session-management.html</a><br>\nMay 21, 2020 XDG_RUNTIME_DIR is an environment variable defined by the XDG Base Directory Specification. Its value sets the path to the base directory where programs should store user-specific runtime files. Install elogind or turnstile as your session manager to automatically set up XDG_RUNTIME_DIR. Alternatively, manually set the environment variable through the shell.</p>\n<p><strong>Installation Guide</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://docs.voidlinux.org/installation/live-images/guide.html\" target=\"_blank\">https://docs.voidlinux.org/installation/live-images/guide.html</a><br>\n Installation Guide Once you have downloaded a Void image to install and prepared your install media, you are ready to install Void Linux. Before you begin installation, you should determine whether your machine boots using BIOS or UEFI. This will affect how you plan partitions. See Partitioning Notes for more detail. The following features are not supported by the installer script: LVM LUKS ...</p>\n<p><strong>Running DBus on IP port as non-root user.</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://forum.artixlinux.org/index.php/topic,5492.0.html\" target=\"_blank\">https://forum.artixlinux.org/index.php/topic,5492.0.html</a><br>\nMay 26, 2023 Also when running dbus-daemon as root, if refuses non-root users from connecting.What are you actually trying to do ? dbus is normally started as a system service by your init. Your user gets/needs another dbus session. I think most Display Managers sort this out for you. If using startx you might have to create it yourself. It seems to vary based on the DE.</p>\n<p><strong>dbus-launch</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://dbus.freedesktop.org/doc/dbus-launch.1.html\" target=\"_blank\">https://dbus.freedesktop.org/doc/dbus-launch.1.html</a><br>\n If DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS is not set for a process that tries to use D-Bus, by default the process will attempt to invoke dbus-launch with the --autolaunch option to start up a new session bus or find the existing bus address on the X display or in a file in ~/.dbus/session-bus/</p>\n<p><strong>Tutorial</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://dbus.freedesktop.org/doc/dbus-tutorial.html\" target=\"_blank\">https://dbus.freedesktop.org/doc/dbus-tutorial.html</a><br>\n Enhancing the tutorial is definitely encouraged - send your patches or suggestions to the mailing list. If you create a D-Bus binding, please add a section to the tutorial for your binding, if only a short section with a couple of examples.</p>\n<p><strong>c - Unable to autolaunch a dbus-daemon without... - Stack Overflow</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://stackoverflow.com/questions/45943505/unable-to-autolaunch-a-dbus-daemon-without-a-display-for-x11-netbeans-pi-as-r\" target=\"_blank\">https://stackoverflow.com/questions/45943505/unable-to-autolaunch-a-dbus-daemon-without-a-display-for-x11-netbeans-pi-as-r</a><br>\nAug 29, 2017 Autolaunch of dbus-daemon only works when under an X11 session. It is otherwise disabled because there's no way for different applications to establish a common instance of the dbus daemon. If you want to run a dbus daemon on your pi box independently of X11, you probably should configure it to launch the dbus daemon on startup, and export the bus address in DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS environment variable.</p>\n<p><strong>linux - Error in spawning a dbus-launch - what is that? - Stack Overflow</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://stackoverflow.com/questions/20285697/error-in-spawning-a-dbus-launch-what-is-that\" target=\"_blank\">https://stackoverflow.com/questions/20285697/error-in-spawning-a-dbus-launch-what-is-that</a><br>\nJun 22, 2017 ** Message: Failed to get session bus: Error spawning command line 'dbus-launch --autolaunch=55644972b3c91c1d24d83d8252721f00 --binary-syntax --close-stderr': Child process exited with code 1.1. Had the same issue when trying to use notify-send in a bash script that required root privileges. Adding. export $(dbus-launch).</p>\n</details>\n<details><summary>Updated plan</summary>\n<div class=\"codehilite\"><span class=\"filename\">diff</span><pre><span></span><code>@@ -17,3 +17,9 @@\n 1. Restart user dbus session without root\n 2. Alternative recovery methods that don't require authentication\n 3. Ways to bypass the sudo timeout issue\n+\n+## Key Findings from Search 1\n+- dbus-launch can use --autolaunch option to find existing bus or start new one\n+- dbus-run-session is an alternative to dbus-launch\n+- XDG_RUNTIME_DIR and ~/.dbus/session-bus/ are key locations\n+- Some processes can auto-launch dbus without sudo\n</code></pre></div>\n</details>\n<details><summary>Searched with Kagi<p></p>\n<ul>\n<li>dbus autolaunch without X11 session</li>\n<li>manually set DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS from file</li>\n<li>~/.dbus/session-bus recovery</li></ul></summary><br>\nSources (15):<br>\n<strong>Cannot autolaunch D-Bus without X11 $DISPLAY on Wayland</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/cannot-autolaunch-d-bus-without-x11-display-on-wayland.100511/\" target=\"_blank\">https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/cannot-autolaunch-d-bus-without-x11-display-on-wayland.100511/</a><br>\nDec 01, 2025 I am using FreeBSD 15.0-RELEASE without xorg and xwayland, but in my Wayland( niri) graphical interface, there seems to be an issue with DBus. Both Waybar and IBus etc display the error: Cannot autolaunch D-Bus without X11 $DISPLAY. This was working fine in version 14.3. When I run echo $XDG_SESSION_TYPE, the output is empty. Setting it to wayland via export does not solve the problem. Similarly, echo $DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS also outputs nothing. I then tried running dbus-launch and export its output, then I can run waybar to start Waybar.\n\n<p><strong>Emacs hangs up X11 | The FreeBSD Forums</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/emacs-hangs-up-x11.33843/\" target=\"_blank\">https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/emacs-hangs-up-x11.33843/</a><br>\nApr 18, 2015 after running portupgrade -ay, I find that emacs, which was updated, hangs up my X11 when I start it. It receives no more keyboard or mouse input (clicks, although the mouse moves) until I kill emacs by logging into another shell or having telnet open. The installed version of emacs isIs 0:00.00 /usr/local/bin/dbus-daemon --fork --print-pid 5 --print 2567 0 RL+ 0:00.01 grep dbus 2541 1 I+ 0:00.00 dbus-launch --autolaunch=65bfd4339d47e8593bd3b21a000062 2548 1 I+ 0:00.01 dbus-launch --autolaunch=.</p>\n<p><strong>c - Unable to autolaunch a dbus-daemon without a $DISPLAY for X11 ...</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://stackoverflow.com/questions/45943505/unable-to-autolaunch-a-dbus-daemon-without-a-display-for-x11-netbeans-pi-as-r\" target=\"_blank\">https://stackoverflow.com/questions/45943505/unable-to-autolaunch-a-dbus-daemon-without-a-display-for-x11-netbeans-pi-as-r</a><br>\nAug 29, 2017 Autolaunch of dbus-daemon only works when under an X11 session. It is otherwise disabled because there's no way for different applications to establish a common instance of the dbus daemon. If you want to run a dbus daemon on your pi box independently of X11, you probably should configure it to launch the dbus daemon on startup, and export the bus address in DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS environment variable.</p>\n<p><strong>unix - Git + libsecret throws \"Cannot autolaunch D-Bus without X11...\"</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://stackoverflow.com/questions/53628122/git-libsecret-throws-cannot-autolaunch-d-bus-without-x11-display\" target=\"_blank\">https://stackoverflow.com/questions/53628122/git-libsecret-throws-cannot-autolaunch-d-bus-without-x11-display</a><br>\nDec 06, 2018 Explore Stack Internal. Git + libsecret throws \"Cannot autolaunch D-Bus without X11 $DISPLAY\". Ask Question.I used git-credentials-store to store my credentials in clear text on the server. Now I wanna use libsecret but unfortunately I'm getting D-Bus errors, if I configure git-credential-libsecret as credential helper. I've already installed dbus and dbus-x11 and launched dbus via below command but I'm still getting errors. dbus-launch --sh-syntax. Error</p>\n<p><strong>selenium - Failed to open connection to \"session...\" - Stack Overflow</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://stackoverflow.com/questions/64762295/failed-to-open-connection-to-session-message-bus-unable-to-autolaunch-a-dbus\" target=\"_blank\">https://stackoverflow.com/questions/64762295/failed-to-open-connection-to-session-message-bus-unable-to-autolaunch-a-dbus</a><br>\nNov 10, 2020 Explore Stack Internal. Failed to open connection to \"session\" message bus: Unable to autolaunch a dbus-daemon without a $DISPLAY for X11.Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers. Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience. To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers.</p>\n<p><strong>Setting $DBUS_SESSION_BUS - Gentoo Forums :: View topic</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-8678422.html?sid=07dc6e24cf9ac8eb05a208702227e5eb\" target=\"_blank\">https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-8678422.html?sid=07dc6e24cf9ac8eb05a208702227e5eb</a><br>\nNov 16, 2021 I'm running into the following problem: $DBUS_SESSION_{ADDRESS,PID} are note set, which is breaking pinentry's behavior (it falls back to the ncurses version ...</p>\n<p><strong>Set up systemd Services With Session DBus on Headless Linux</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://www.baeldung.com/linux/systemd-session-dbus-headless-setup\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.baeldung.com/linux/systemd-session-dbus-headless-setup</a><br>\nFeb 02, 2024 We might manually start a DBus daemon and set the DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS environment variable. However, this approach, involving several manual steps across multiple terminals, is far from ideal for a stable, scalable, and automated system.This might include setting the DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS variable and other relevant settings. Let’s see a basic example of what the configuration might look like</p>\n<p><strong>Change GSettings With gsettings or dconf in... | Baeldung on Linux</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://www.baeldung.com/linux/gsettings-remote-shell\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.baeldung.com/linux/gsettings-remote-shell</a><br>\nJan 15, 2024 <math display=\"inline\"><mi>e</mi><mi>x</mi><mi>p</mi><mi>o</mi><mi>r</mi><mi>t</mi><mi>D</mi><mi>B</mi><mi>U</mi><msub><mi>S</mi><mi>S</mi></msub><mi>E</mi><mi>S</mi><mi>S</mi><mi>I</mi><mi>O</mi><msub><mi>N</mi><mi>B</mi></msub><mi>U</mi><msub><mi>S</mi><mi>A</mi></msub><mi>D</mi><mi>D</mi><mi>R</mi><mi>E</mi><mi>S</mi><mi>S</mi><mo>=</mo><mi>i</mi><mi>n</mi><mi>c</mi><mi>o</mi><mi>r</mi><mi>r</mi><mi>e</mi><mi>c</mi><mi>t</mi></math> gsettings set org.gnome.calculator show-zeroes false. (process:669): dconf-WARNING **: 10:00:03.009: failed to commit changes to dconf: Address element “random” does not contain a colon (:) Although we could get the proper value of $DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS via a script, it depends on the environment of external processes</p>\n<p><strong>Ubuntu Manpage: dbus-launch - Utility to start a message bus from...</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/xenial/man1/dbus-launch.1.html\" target=\"_blank\">https://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/xenial/man1/dbus-launch.1.html</a><br>\nMar 30, 2019 If DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS is not set for a process that tries to use D-Bus, by default the process will. attempt to invoke dbus-launch with the --autolaunch option to start up a new session bus or find the.can edit the session.conf config file to have your session bus listen on TCP, and manually set. DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS, if you like.</p>\n<p><strong>Ubuntu Manpage: dbus-launch - Utility to start a message bus from a ...</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/en/man1/dbus-launch.1.html\" target=\"_blank\">https://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/en/man1/dbus-launch.1.html</a><br>\n attempt to invoke dbus-launch with the --autolaunch option to start up a new session bus or find the existing bus address on the X display or in a file in ~/.dbus/session-bus/</p>\n<p><strong>dbus how to reconnect to a new session bus daemon - Stack Overflow</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://stackoverflow.com/questions/25023469/dbus-how-to-reconnect-to-a-new-session-bus-daemon\" target=\"_blank\">https://stackoverflow.com/questions/25023469/dbus-how-to-reconnect-to-a-new-session-bus-daemon</a><br>\nJul 29, 2014 The logic to reconnect to a new dbus daemon should involve a few components and events: A bus-monitor which tells the application whether the bus is still up, ...</p>\n<p><strong>unix - Access another user's D-Bus session - Stack Overflow</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://stackoverflow.com/questions/6496847/access-another-users-d-bus-session\" target=\"_blank\">https://stackoverflow.com/questions/6496847/access-another-users-d-bus-session</a><br>\n This user has got a dbus-daemon running. However, when an application running with root privileges tries to access D-Bus, it just spawns another dbus-daemon, owned by root user. That's not a desired situation. Is there a way to gain access to D-Bus session of user who ran the application through sudo or su?</p>\n<p><strong>dbus-daemon</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://dbus.freedesktop.org/doc/dbus-daemon.1.html\" target=\"_blank\">https://dbus.freedesktop.org/doc/dbus-daemon.1.html</a><br>\nNov 21, 2009 D-Bus is first a library that provides one-to-one communication between any two applications; dbus-daemon is an application that uses this library to implement a message bus daemon. Multiple programs connect to the message bus daemon and can exchange messages with one another.Some configuration changes would require kicking all apps off the bus; so they will only take effect if you restart the daemon. Policy changes should take effect with SIGHUP.</p>\n<p><strong>D-Bus Specification</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://dbus.freedesktop.org/doc/dbus-specification.html\" target=\"_blank\">https://dbus.freedesktop.org/doc/dbus-specification.html</a><br>\nNov 08, 2009 It provides a common session bus address for each user and deprecates the X11-enabled D-Bus launcher on OSX. launchd allocates a socket and provides it with the unix path through the DBUS_LAUNCHD_SESSION_BUS_SOCKET variable in launchd's environment. Every process spawned by launchd (or dbus-daemon, if it was started by launchd) can access it through its environment.</p>\n<p><strong>Tutorial</strong><br>\n<a href=\"https://dbus.freedesktop.org/doc/dbus-tutorial.html\" target=\"_blank\">https://dbus.freedesktop.org/doc/dbus-tutorial.html</a><br>\n Enhancing the tutorial is definitely encouraged - send your patches or suggestions to the mailing list. If you create a D-Bus binding, please add a section to the tutorial for your binding, if only a short section with a couple of examples.</p>\n</details>\n<details><summary>Updated plan</summary>\n<div class=\"codehilite\"><span class=\"filename\">diff</span><pre><span></span><code>@@ -23,3 +23,10 @@\n - dbus-run-session is an alternative to dbus-launch\n - XDG_RUNTIME_DIR and ~/.dbus/session-bus/ are key locations\n - Some processes can auto-launch dbus without sudo\n+\n+## Key Findings from Search 2\n+- dbus-run-session doesn't require sudo and can start new session\n+- dbus autolaunch looks in ~/.dbus/session-bus/ for existing sessions\n+- XDG_RUNTIME_DIR is crucial for session management\n+- Autolaunch only works under X11 session normally\n+- Can manually set DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS from files\n</code></pre></div>\n</details>\n<details><summary>Updated plan</summary>\n<div class=\"codehilite\"><span class=\"filename\">diff</span><pre><span></span><code>@@ -30,3 +30,16 @@\n - XDG_RUNTIME_DIR is crucial for session management\n - Autolaunch only works under X11 session normally\n - Can manually set DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS from files\n+\n+## Key Findings from Search 3\n+- dbus autolaunch fails without X11 $DISPLAY\n+- Can manually start dbus-daemon and set DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS\n+- ~/.dbus/session-bus/ contains session files that can be read\n+- dbus-launch --sh-syntax can be used to export variables\n+- Manual dbus daemon start is possible without sudo\n+\n+## Potential Solutions\n+1. Try dbus-run-session to start new session\n+2. Check ~/.dbus/session-bus/ for existing session files\n+3. Manually set DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS from session files\n+4. Use dbus-launch --sh-syntax if it works without sudo\n</code></pre></div>\n</details><p>You're in a catch-22 situation where dbus is broken and sudo times out because polkit needs dbus. Here are several <strong>non-sudo</strong> approaches to try:</p>\n<h2>1. Try dbus-run-session (Most Promising)</h2>\n<p><code>dbus-run-session</code> can start a new session without requiring sudo <sup class=\"trigger\"><a href=\"https://dbus.freedesktop.org/doc/dbus-run-session.1.html#:~:text=dbus-run-session%20is%20used,it%20will%20terminate.\">2</a><span class=\"tooltip top center citation\"><a href=\"https://dbus.freedesktop.org/doc/dbus-run-session.1.html#:~:text=dbus-run-session%20is%20used,it%20will%20terminate.\"><span class=\"source\"><img alt=\"\" src=\"https://p.kagi.com/proxy/favicons?c=lQ30-cxV_E2Vdyqb6hrbuYgId7qu7hecjO7o1T7aqQDFc7XpcLttL1Ryala-GNHJZ7RX5n9oppR-tlO_iuJntK7hq3HjsuOC6JE3-0pXdm5ar7-r3ZMxX7qpUzcN2uMB\"> dbus.freedesktop.org</span><b>2. dbus-run-session - freedesktop.org</b></a><span class=\"passage\">dbus-run-session is used to start a session bus instance of dbus-daemon from a shell script, and start a specified program in that session. The dbus-daemon will run for as long as the program does, after which it will terminate.</span></span></sup>:</p>\n<div class=\"codehilite\"><span class=\"filename\">Bash</span><pre><span></span><code><span class=\"c\"># Start a new dbus session and run a shell in it</span>\n<span class=\"nf\">dbus-run-session</span> bash\n</code></pre></div>\n<p>This should give you a new shell with a working dbus session. Test if it works:</p>\n<div class=\"codehilite\"><span class=\"filename\">Bash</span><pre><span></span><code><span class=\"nf\">echo</span> <span class=\"o\">$</span>DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS\n<span class=\"nf\">echo</span> <span class=\"o\">$</span>DBUS_SESSION_BUS_PID\n<span class=\"nf\">systemctl</span> <span class=\"no\">--user</span> status\n</code></pre></div>\n<h2>2. Check for Existing Session Files</h2>\n<p>dbus autolaunch looks for existing sessions in <code>~/.dbus/session-bus/</code> <sup class=\"trigger\"><a href=\"https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/75984/trouble-with-dbus-and-systemd-user#:~:text=7%20If%20DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS,file%20in%20~/.dbus/session-bus/.\">5</a><span class=\"tooltip top center citation\"><a href=\"https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/75984/trouble-with-dbus-and-systemd-user#:~:text=7%20If%20DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS,file%20in%20~/.dbus/session-bus/.\"><span class=\"source\"><img alt=\"\" src=\"https://p.kagi.com/proxy/favicons?c=lQ30-cxV_E2Vdyqb6hrbuYgId7qu7hecjO7o1T7aqQDFc7XpcLttL1Ryala-GNHJWeULnqSt7NkIOxnupgcnEuJiYTnv6MgDUxM1NwUtzmZmvwh3eizJlaNAEdOoQ8LP\"> unix.stackexchange.com</span><b>5. arch linux - Trouble with dbus and systemd/user - Unix & Linux Stack...</b></a><span class=\"passage\">7 If DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS is not set for a process that tries to use D-Bus, by default that process will attempt to invoke dbus-launch with the --autolaunch option to start up a new session bus or find the existing bus address on the X display or in a file in ~/.dbus/session-bus/.</span></span></sup><sup class=\"trigger\"><a href=\"https://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/en/man1/dbus-launch.1.html#:~:text=attempt%20to%20invoke,file%20in%20~/.dbus/session-bus/\">7</a><span class=\"tooltip top center citation\"><a href=\"https://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/en/man1/dbus-launch.1.html#:~:text=attempt%20to%20invoke,file%20in%20~/.dbus/session-bus/\"><span class=\"source\"><img alt=\"\" src=\"https://p.kagi.com/proxy/favicons?c=lQ30-cxV_E2Vdyqb6hrbuYgId7qu7hecjO7o1T7aqQDFc7XpcLttL1Ryala-GNHJZC9aoWn8xGO_92ShUEDguDaR78g5JTvhd2LKAJkv51DLq2GILAzEkRW3R5OmunTO\"> manpages.ubuntu.com</span><b>7. Ubuntu Manpage: dbus-launch - Utility to start a message bus from a ...</b></a><span class=\"passage\">attempt to invoke dbus-launch with the --autolaunch option to start up a new session bus or find the existing bus address on the X display or in a file in ~/.dbus/session-bus/</span></span></sup>:</p>\n<div class=\"codehilite\"><span class=\"filename\">Bash</span><pre><span></span><code><span class=\"c\"># Check if there are any session files</span>\n<span class=\"nf\">ls</span> <span class=\"no\">-la</span> ~/.dbus/session-bus/\n\n<span class=\"c\"># If files exist, try to source one (replace with actual filename)</span>\n<span class=\"nf\">cat</span> ~/.dbus/session-bus/*\n</code></pre></div>\n<p>If you find a session file, you can manually set the address:</p>\n<div class=\"codehilite\"><span class=\"filename\">Bash</span><pre><span></span><code><span class=\"c\"># Example if you find a file with the address</span>\n<span class=\"k\">export</span> DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=<span class=\"s\">\"unix:path=/run/user/1000/bus\"</span>\n</code></pre></div>\n<h2>3. Try dbus-launch with --sh-syntax</h2>\n<p>Some versions of dbus-launch might work without sudo <sup class=\"trigger\"><a href=\"https://forum.artixlinux.org/index.php/topic,8453.0.html#:~:text=if%20test%20x%22%24DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS%22,to%20source%2C%20/etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.d/50-systemd-user.sh\">4</a><span class=\"tooltip top center citation\"><a href=\"https://forum.artixlinux.org/index.php/topic,8453.0.html#:~:text=if%20test%20x%22%24DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS%22,to%20source%2C%20/etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.d/50-systemd-user.sh\"><span class=\"source\"><img alt=\"\" src=\"https://p.kagi.com/proxy/favicons?c=lQ30-cxV_E2Vdyqb6hrbuYgId7qu7hecjO7o1T7aqQDFc7XpcLttL1Ryala-GNHJ6i65b_F2YesgaxNGsTS9esgXbXu_8PumUaUBEJuCaAwcByWie3Z3KPlzeSlBQxQ6\"> forum.artixlinux.org</span><b>4. is X11 now a days connecting to dbus without user intervention?</b></a><span class=\"passage\">if test x\"$DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS\" = x\"\"; then dbuslaunch=`which dbus-launch` if test x\"$dbuslaunch\" != x\"\" -a x\"$dbuslaunch\" != x\"no\"; then eval `$dbuslaunch --sh-syntax --exit-with-session` fi unset dbuslaunch fi. Or as later, one could just use dbus-run like exec dbus-run-session <wm>. Or use the not available on artix I guess and still part of those shell script to source, /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.d/50-systemd-user.sh</span></span></sup>:</p>\n<div class=\"codehilite\"><span class=\"filename\">Bash</span><pre><span></span><code><span class=\"c\"># Try this - it might not require sudo</span>\n<span class=\"nf\">dbus-launch</span> <span class=\"no\">--sh-syntax</span>\n</code></pre></div>\n<p>If it works, it will output something like:</p>\n<div class=\"codehilite\"><span class=\"filename\">Plaintext</span><pre><span></span><code>DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS='unix:abstract=/tmp/dbus-XXXXXXXXXX'\nDBUS_SESSION_BUS_PID=12345\n</code></pre></div>\n<p>Then manually export those:</p>\n<div class=\"codehilite\"><span class=\"filename\">Bash</span><pre><span></span><code><span class=\"k\">export</span> DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=<span class=\"s\">'unix:abstract=/tmp/dbus-XXXXXXXXXX'</span>\n<span class=\"k\">export</span> DBUS_SESSION_BUS_PID=12345\n</code></pre></div>\n<h2>4. Check Your XDG_RUNTIME_DIR</h2>\n<p>Verify your runtime directory is accessible:</p>\n<div class=\"codehilite\"><span class=\"filename\">Bash</span><pre><span></span><code><span class=\"nf\">echo</span> <span class=\"o\">$</span>XDG_RUNTIME_DIR\n<span class=\"nf\">ls</span> <span class=\"no\">-la</span> <span class=\"o\">$</span>XDG_RUNTIME_DIR\n<span class=\"nf\">ls</span> <span class=\"no\">-la</span> /run/user/1000/\n</code></pre></div>\n<p>Sometimes the socket file exists but the environment variable is wrong.</p>\n<h2>5. Try Starting Applications Directly</h2>\n<p>Some applications can auto-launch dbus <sup class=\"trigger\"><a href=\"https://dbus.freedesktop.org/doc/dbus-launch.1.html#:~:text=If%20DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS%20is,file%20in%20~/.dbus/session-bus/\">6</a><span class=\"tooltip top center citation\"><a href=\"https://dbus.freedesktop.org/doc/dbus-launch.1.html#:~:text=If%20DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS%20is,file%20in%20~/.dbus/session-bus/\"><span class=\"source\"><img alt=\"\" src=\"https://p.kagi.com/proxy/favicons?c=lQ30-cxV_E2Vdyqb6hrbuYgId7qu7hecjO7o1T7aqQDFc7XpcLttL1Ryala-GNHJZ7RX5n9oppR-tlO_iuJntK7hq3HjsuOC6JE3-0pXdm5ar7-r3ZMxX7qpUzcN2uMB\"> dbus.freedesktop.org</span><b>6. dbus-launch</b></a><span class=\"passage\">If DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS is not set for a process that tries to use D-Bus, by default the process will attempt to invoke dbus-launch with the --autolaunch option to start up a new session bus or find the existing bus address on the X display or in a file in ~/.dbus/session-bus/</span></span></sup>. Try starting a simple GUI application:</p>\n<div class=\"codehilite\"><span class=\"filename\">Bash</span><pre><span></span><code><span class=\"c\"># Try starting a simple application that might auto-launch dbus</span>\n<span class=\"nf\">konsole</span> &\n<span class=\"c\"># or</span>\n<span class=\"nf\">kate</span> &\n</code></pre></div>\n<h2>Why This Happens</h2>\n<p>The \"Cannot autolaunch D-Bus without X11 $DISPLAY\" issue occurs because dbus autolaunch is disabled when not under an X11 session <sup class=\"trigger\"><a href=\"https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/cannot-autolaunch-d-bus-without-x11-display-on-wayland.100511/#:~:text=I%20am%20using,to%20start%20Waybar.\">1</a><span class=\"tooltip top center citation\"><a href=\"https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/cannot-autolaunch-d-bus-without-x11-display-on-wayland.100511/#:~:text=I%20am%20using,to%20start%20Waybar.\"><span class=\"source\"><img alt=\"\" src=\"https://p.kagi.com/proxy/favicons?c=lQ30-cxV_E2Vdyqb6hrbuYgId7qu7hecjO7o1T7aqQDFc7XpcLttL1Ryala-GNHJxZV5bzxBG08BeuKKIy04zOC3YoRohtfCe5Pot3_DlN0%3D\"> forums.freebsd.org</span><b>1. Cannot autolaunch D-Bus without X11 $DISPLAY on Wayland</b></a><span class=\"passage\">I am using FreeBSD 15.0-RELEASE without xorg and xwayland, but in my Wayland( niri) graphical interface, there seems to be an issue with DBus. Both Waybar and IBus etc display the error: Cannot autolaunch D-Bus without X11 $DISPLAY. This was working fine in version 14.3. When I run echo $XDG_SESSION_TYPE, the output is empty. Setting it to wayland via export does not solve the problem. Similarly, echo $DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS also outputs nothing. I then tried running dbus-launch and export ...</span></span></sup><sup class=\"trigger\"><a href=\"https://stackoverflow.com/questions/45943505/unable-to-autolaunch-a-dbus-daemon-without-a-display-for-x11-netbeans-pi-as-r#:~:text=Autolaunch%20of%20dbus-daemon,DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS%20environment%20variable.\">3</a><span class=\"tooltip top center citation\"><a href=\"https://stackoverflow.com/questions/45943505/unable-to-autolaunch-a-dbus-daemon-without-a-display-for-x11-netbeans-pi-as-r#:~:text=Autolaunch%20of%20dbus-daemon,DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS%20environment%20variable.\"><span class=\"source\"><img alt=\"\" src=\"https://p.kagi.com/proxy/favicons?c=lQ30-cxV_E2Vdyqb6hrbuYgId7qu7hecjO7o1T7aqQDFc7XpcLttL1Ryala-GNHJrN94MAGqYPlcQNXHDBYc5aLbfREbHukc4f9EOHQ1MdU%3D\"> stackoverflow.com</span><b>3. c - Unable to autolaunch a dbus-daemon without... - Stack Overflow</b></a><span class=\"passage\">Autolaunch of dbus-daemon only works when under an X11 session. It is otherwise disabled because there's no way for different applications to establish a common instance of the dbus daemon. If you want to run a dbus daemon on your pi box independently of X11, you probably should configure it to launch the dbus daemon on startup, and export the bus address in DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS environment variable.</span></span></sup>. Your KDE session is running but the dbus session management layer is broken.</p>\n<h2>Most Likely to Work</h2>\n<p>Try <strong>dbus-run-session bash</strong> first - this is designed exactly for this situation and doesn't require sudo. If that gives you a working shell with dbus, you can then restart your user services:</p>\n<div class=\"codehilite\"><span class=\"filename\">Bash</span><pre><span></span><code><span class=\"c\"># After dbus-run-session works</span>\n<span class=\"nf\">systemctl</span> <span class=\"no\">--user</span> restart plasma-plasmashell.service\n</code></pre></div>\n<p>The key insight is that you need to bypass the broken session entirely rather than trying to fix it, since fixing requires the very thing that's broken (working dbus for sudo/polkit).</p>","md":"You're in a catch-22 situation where dbus is broken and sudo times out because polkit needs dbus. Here are several **non-sudo** approaches to try:\n\n## 1. Try dbus-run-session (Most Promising)\n\n`dbus-run-session` can start a new session without requiring sudo [^2]:\n\n```bash\n# Start a new dbus session and run a shell in it\ndbus-run-session bash\n```\n\nThis should give you a new shell with a working dbus session. Test if it works:\n```bash\necho $DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS\necho $DBUS_SESSION_BUS_PID\nsystemctl --user status\n```\n\n## 2. Check for Existing Session Files\n\ndbus autolaunch looks for existing sessions in `~/.dbus/session-bus/` [^5][^7]:\n\n```bash\n# Check if there are any session files\nls -la ~/.dbus/session-bus/\n\n# If files exist, try to source one (replace with actual filename)\ncat ~/.dbus/session-bus/*\n```\n\nIf you find a session file, you can manually set the address:\n```bash\n# Example if you find a file with the address\nexport DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=\"unix:path=/run/user/1000/bus\"\n```\n\n## 3. Try dbus-launch with --sh-syntax\n\nSome versions of dbus-launch might work without sudo [^4]:\n\n```bash\n# Try this - it might not require sudo\ndbus-launch --sh-syntax\n```\n\nIf it works, it will output something like:\n```\nDBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS='unix:abstract=/tmp/dbus-XXXXXXXXXX'\nDBUS_SESSION_BUS_PID=12345\n```\n\nThen manually export those:\n```bash\nexport DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS='unix:abstract=/tmp/dbus-XXXXXXXXXX'\nexport DBUS_SESSION_BUS_PID=12345\n```\n\n## 4. Check Your XDG_RUNTIME_DIR\n\nVerify your runtime directory is accessible:\n```bash\necho $XDG_RUNTIME_DIR\nls -la $XDG_RUNTIME_DIR\nls -la /run/user/1000/\n```\n\nSometimes the socket file exists but the environment variable is wrong.\n\n## 5. Try Starting Applications Directly\n\nSome applications can auto-launch dbus [^6]. Try starting a simple GUI application:\n\n```bash\n# Try starting a simple application that might auto-launch dbus\nkonsole &\n# or\nkate &\n```\n\n## Why This Happens\n\nThe \"Cannot autolaunch D-Bus without X11 $DISPLAY\" issue occurs because dbus autolaunch is disabled when not under an X11 session [^1][^3]. Your KDE session is running but the dbus session management layer is broken.\n\n## Most Likely to Work\n\nTry **dbus-run-session bash** first - this is designed exactly for this situation and doesn't require sudo. If that gives you a working shell with dbus, you can then restart your user services:\n\n```bash\n# After dbus-run-session works\nsystemctl --user restart plasma-plasmashell.service\n```\n\nThe key insight is that you need to bypass the broken session entirely rather than trying to fix it, since fixing requires the very thing that's broken (working dbus for sudo/polkit).","profile":{"id":null,"name":null,"accessible":true,"subtitle":"State of the art deep research (>30 secs)","model":"ki_research","deprecate":false,"retired":false,"successor_model":null,"model_name":"Research","model_provider":"kagi","model_input_limit":1000000,"recommended":false,"model_info":"\n\n\n\n<div class=\"heading\">\n <div class=\"left\">\n \n \n \n <svg class=\"model-icon icon-xs\" data-model=\"ki_research\">\n <use href=\"#icon-kagi\"/>\n </svg>\n <h3>\n \n <span class=\"model-provider\">Kagi</span>\n \n <span class=\"model-name\">none</span>\n </h3>\n </div>\n\n \n <a href=\"/settings?p=custom_assistant&id=none\">\n <svg class=\"icon-sm edit-icon\" aria-hidden=\"true\">\n <use href=\"#icon-pencil\" />\n </svg>\n </a>\n \n</div>\n\n\n<hr />\n<ul>\n \n <li>\n <h4>\n Cost\n </h4>\n <span>\n \n \n \n\n \n \n \n\n <div class=\"score\" aria-label=\"Relatively expensive\">\n \n \n \n \n <div aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"filled-cost --medium\"></div>\n \n \n \n \n \n <div aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"filled-cost --medium\"></div>\n \n \n \n \n \n <div aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"filled-cost --medium\"></div>\n \n \n \n \n \n <div aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"filled-cost --medium\"></div>\n \n \n \n \n \n <div aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"unfilled-cost --medium\"></div>\n \n \n </div>\n</span>\n </li>\n <li>\n <h4>\n Quality\n </h4>\n <span>\n \n \n \n\n \n \n \n\n <div class=\"score\" aria-label=\"Rated 5 out of 5\">\n \n \n \n <div aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"filled-bubble\"></div>\n \n \n \n \n <div aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"filled-bubble\"></div>\n \n \n \n \n <div aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"filled-bubble\"></div>\n \n \n \n \n <div aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"filled-bubble\"></div>\n \n \n \n \n <div aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"filled-bubble\"></div>\n \n \n </div>\n</span>\n </li>\n <li>\n <h4>\n Speed\n </h4>\n <span>\n \n \n \n\n \n \n \n\n <div class=\"score\" aria-label=\"Rated 2 out of 5\">\n \n \n \n <div aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"filled-bubble\"></div>\n \n \n \n \n <div aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"filled-bubble\"></div>\n \n \n \n \n <div aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"unfilled-bubble\"></div>\n \n \n \n \n <div aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"unfilled-bubble\"></div>\n \n \n \n \n <div aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"unfilled-bubble\"></div>\n \n \n </div>\n</span>\n </li>\n <li>\n <h4>\n Privacy\n </h4>\n <span>\n \n \n \n\n \n \n \n\n <div class=\"score\" aria-label=\"Rated 4 out of 5\">\n \n \n \n <div aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"filled-bubble\"></div>\n \n \n \n \n <div aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"filled-bubble\"></div>\n \n \n \n \n <div aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"filled-bubble\"></div>\n \n \n \n \n <div aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"filled-bubble\"></div>\n \n \n \n \n <div aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"unfilled-bubble\"></div>\n \n \n </div>\n</span>\n </li>\n <hr />\n <li>\n <h4>Last updated</h4>\n <span class=\"date\">\n \n \n 2025-11-18\n \n \n </span>\n </li>\n \n</ul>\n\n\n","model_provider_name":"Kagi","internet_access":true,"personalizations":false,"shortcut":null,"is_default_profile":false},"metadata":"<li>\n <span class=\"attribute\">Model</span>\n <span class=\"value\"><i class=\"icon-xs mr-4\"><svg><use href=\"#icon-kagi\"></use></svg></i>Research</span>\n</li>\n<li>\n <span class=\"attribute\">Version</span>\n <span class=\"value\">ki_research-2025-11-18</span>\n</li>\n<li>\n <span class=\"attribute\">Speed (tok/s)</span>\n <span class=\"value\">38</span>\n</li>\n<li>\n <span class=\"attribute\">Tokens</span>\n <span class=\"value\">21,697</span>\n</li>\n<li>\n <span class=\"attribute\">Cost / Total ($)</span>\n <span class=\"value\">0.13 / 0.68</span>\n</li>\n<li>\n <span class=\"attribute\">End to end time (s)</span>\n <span class=\"value\">71.16</span>\n</li>\n<li>\n <span class=\"attribute\">Submitted</span>\n <span class=\"value\">2026-03-12 06:01</span>\n</li>\n\n","documents":[]}]